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Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:02 pm to beulahland
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Spontaneous abortion and abortion are not the same thing.
Umm a spontaneous abortion is a type of abortion.
IOW, medically speaking there are two types of abortions: spontaneous (aka miscarriage) and elective. This isn't debateable.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:03 pm to ChineseBandit58
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wait - are you saying that a miscarriage is counted as an abortion???????
Medically, yes.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:06 pm to KCT
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Ommg knows that statistic refers to induced abortions.
Again, I believe you mean "elective" here not "induced."
But anyways, how am I supposed to know? There is no link in the OP, and I have no clue what the ballpark figures are. Plus, I don't know if CDC classifies abortions in the medical sense or not. I'm just going by whats in the OP (or whats left out)
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But, when does he ever do anything except get defensive and deflect when it comes to any segment of the black population being held accountable for their actions?
I'm not deflecting, I'm just trying to make sure we all know what the OPs numbers refer to since theres no link.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:17 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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onmymedicalgrind
Man, I admire your perseverance on this board. Hell I can take it nearly as much anymore, and my schedule isn't as grueling as yours. Kudos.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:20 pm to VOR
I would think conservatives who mostly are white and don't like black people would be happy about black baby abortions.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:22 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Fair enough, ommg, but the fact that it's a cumulative total since 1973 strongly implies that we're talking about "elective" abortions from around the time that the scotus ruled on roe v wade.
To Bucky Badger, I never said anything about the legality of this. Some of us consider abortion to be the taking of a human life. I think that chart is disgusting, regardless of what color those babies were.
To Bucky Badger, I never said anything about the legality of this. Some of us consider abortion to be the taking of a human life. I think that chart is disgusting, regardless of what color those babies were.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:23 pm to KCT
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Fair enough, ommg, but the fact that it's a cumulative total since 1973 strongly implies that we're talking about "elective" abortions from around the time that the scotus ruled on roe v wade.
This may be true. I just think it makes sense to include links in OPs with these type of figures so there no ambiguity.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:24 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Why wouldn't they group the other stats together? They are all deaths, medically, yes?
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:24 pm to KCT
You are free to have your thoughts. You said they aren't being held accountable. They have nothing to be accountable to you or anyone else. Maybe the imaginary man in the sky. But, not you.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:24 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Plus, I don't know if CDC classifies abortions in the medical sense or not. I'm just going by whats in the OP (or whats left out)
Have you ever seen miscarriages totaled with elective abortions in any sort of comparison sense?
Also = what percent of pregnancies end in miscarriage, and what percent in elective abortion??
i.e. would it significantly change the numbers if miscarriages WERE included in the numbers?? I would think that significantly less than 30 percent of pregnancies end in natural miscarriages.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:24 pm to VOR
Its not that bad in here. Plus I like to use this place as my "escape from reality."
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:32 pm to onmymedicalgrind
One of my primary escapes from reality is LSU sports. One more bowl game, and then I have to wait for baseball.
This board, imo, is all about reality. Reality has mostly been kind of lousy lately, so I definitely can't say I come here to get away from anything.
This board, imo, is all about reality. Reality has mostly been kind of lousy lately, so I definitely can't say I come here to get away from anything.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:32 pm to TN Bhoy
What babies????? You mean fetuses?????
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:33 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Another abortion thread.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 8:38 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Have you ever seen miscarriages totaled with elective abortions in any sort of comparison sense?
The graph doesn't say "elective" hence the ambiguity.
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Also = what percent of pregnancies end in miscarriage, and what percent in elective abortion??
i.e. would it significantly change the numbers if miscarriages WERE included in the numbers?? I would think that significantly less than 30 percent of pregnancies end in natural miscarriages.
Well about 15-20% end in miscarriage, so yes, I do believe it would skew the data if included.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:17 pm to TN Bhoy
It's ironic that the Democrats support a policy that actually kills off newborns of their most reliable voting block.
If they were anti abortion along with the GOP they'd have millions more black voters today and probably would be guaranteed to win every Presidency
If they were anti abortion along with the GOP they'd have millions more black voters today and probably would be guaranteed to win every Presidency
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:21 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:some, sure.
So mothers who had spontaneous abortions aka miscarriages essentially killed their baby?
Can a mother not cause herself to miscarry?
All? Of course not. But I would wager it is a very small percentage of that number.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:27 pm to Roaad
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Can a mother not cause herself to miscarry?
Well then its not a spontaneous abortion aka miscarriage if the mother is actively doing something to terminate her pregnancy.
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All? Of course not. But I would wager it is a very small percentage of that number.
What is a small percentage of what? Not sure what you're referring to here.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 9:33 pm to TN Bhoy
Of that 13 million, how many do you suppose would be contributing members of society had they not been aborted?
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