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re: Nagin victim of federal over reach---I agree
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:59 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:59 pm to I B Freeman
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Caldwell could probably prosecute him today.
Could probably are the keywords here.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:02 pm to I B Freeman
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Ok add piracy and counterfeiting and mail fraud 80 years into the country's history.
Public corruption 1825
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:03 pm to notiger1997
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Could probably are the keywords here.
Should have said it is within the authority of the AG to prosecute him instead attempting to comment on AG's abilities.
No one thanks he evaded federal taxes but paid La taxes do they?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 10:07 pm to I B Freeman
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Should have said it is within the authority of the AG to prosecute him instead attempting to comment on AG's abilities.
No one thanks he evaded federal taxes but paid La taxes do they?
If his federal tax return is fraudulent then his state return also is.
The state would probably just prefer not spend the money. If the feds can haul him off for a while its best to concentrate on putting other local criminals away. Limited resources and all.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:03 pm to I B Freeman
quote:Damn straight
We should be doing our criminal prosecution.
quote:Actions have consequences; so do inactions.
We all know the state will not because they are political cowards but I don't like the fed exerting so much power.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 11:12 pm to I B Freeman
I am gonna assume bribery, and tax fraud fall under the commerce and taxing powers given to Congress by the constitution.
This writer is ignorant.
This writer is ignorant.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 6:40 am to I B Freeman
Edwin Edwards and Nagin agree with you!
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:23 am to I B Freeman
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Where did all these laws come from that allow the Fed to trasp into the state and go after these people? Frankly it was the same for EWE.
We should be doing our criminal prosecution. We all know the state will not because they are political cowards but I don't like the fed exerting so much power.
So the feds shouldn't be involved in high profile crimes of elected officials who are distributing FEDERAL monies on contracts to rebuild New Orleans?
Look, Federal prosecutors bat damn near 1000% on convictions. I do not care if a Martian prosecutor was involved, let that stupid fricking lying cheating arrogant loser racist piece of shite get burn in Jackson Square. Louisiana and New Orleans deserve better!
I hope he's already getting raped in Angola
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 8:25 am
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:30 am to GeeOH
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I hope he's already getting raped in Angola
Uhhh Angola is a state prison. He was not prosecuted by the State. The entire point of the thread.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:32 am to GeeOH
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So the feds shouldn't be involved in high profile crimes of elected officials who are distributing FEDERAL monies on contracts to rebuild New Orleans?
Did he get charged with illegally handling federal monies? I didn't see those charges. Bribery, wire fraud, tax evasion were most of the crimes. All punishable under Louisiana law.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am to I B Freeman
The better outcome would be to insist that Louisiana enforce it's laws and tell the Fed to stay out of our business.
Is there anybody happy that at the turn of the twentieth century there were only a handful of federal crimes and today there are more than ABA or LSU can count? 27000 pages of federal code?
Read the article in the link I provided and tell me are you happy the feds have to do our dirty work.
None of you could stand prosecution by a zealous US Justice Department. The federal laws are so wide ranging, so intrusive I doubt any citizen can say with certainty they have violated a single a federal law or prosecutable administrative rule.
Is there anybody happy that at the turn of the twentieth century there were only a handful of federal crimes and today there are more than ABA or LSU can count? 27000 pages of federal code?
Read the article in the link I provided and tell me are you happy the feds have to do our dirty work.
None of you could stand prosecution by a zealous US Justice Department. The federal laws are so wide ranging, so intrusive I doubt any citizen can say with certainty they have violated a single a federal law or prosecutable administrative rule.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 8:42 am
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:43 am to I B Freeman
quote:The closer you are to the corruption the more likely you are to get dirty. Louisiana has a history of corrupt politics. Just look at what is happening in D.C. right now. Even some of the Dem's are uncomfortable with what Obama is doing but there is no way in hell they would ever vote to impeach him. They want and need the power that comes with being the majority party. Unfortunately there is not a higher authority to do anything about it.
We should be doing our criminal prosecution. We all know the state will not because they are political cowards
If things are done on the local level it looks more like political motivation rather than a criminal investigation. Sometimes its better to let the outsiders clean up the mess.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:45 am to I B Freeman
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Did he get charged with illegally handling federal monies? I didn't see those charges. Bribery, wire fraud, tax evasion were most of the crimes. All punishable under Louisiana law.
I must admit, Im not the most educated on his crimes, but I know the bribes had a part in the rewarding of contracts in the rebuilding after Katrina, which lasted years. I know wire fraud is a federal crime as is tax evasion. Last time I checked we file state and federal tax returns.
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Did he get charged with illegally handling federal monies?
I would think so because the rebuilding was almost all federal monies. Who's in charge of the levies? Isn't that the Core?
Not sure of the Angola issue, I've just been told that anything over 10 yrs would qualify him for Angola....I'll ask Mrs Oh, she'll know.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 8:50 am to GeeOH
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Not sure of the Angola issue, I've just been told that anything over 10 yrs would qualify him for Angola....I'll ask Mrs Oh, she'll know.
He is not going to Angola it is a state prison. He was prosecuted by the FEDS BUT should have prosecuted by the DA and/or the AG.
THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE THREAD that and the immense power the fed has to prosecute.
You should be PO that Cannizzaro or Caldwell did not lead the charge to prosecute Nagin.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 9:55 am to I B Freeman
When the apple is rotten to the core, federal intenvention is warranted. At one time the New Orleans Police Department was so corrupt that even its Internal Affairs Department couldn't be trusted, so the F.B.I. had to get involved.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:00 am to trackfan
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When the apple is rotten to the core, federal intenvention is warranted. At one time the New Orleans Police Department was so corrupt that even its Internal Affairs Department couldn't be trusted, so the F.B.I. had to get involved.
I am not disagreeing. I am advocating demanding and expecting state and local intervention.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:03 am to trackfan
The Nagin trial was a carbon copy of the Larry Langford trial. NOLA is a bunch of pikers when it comes to corruption compared to Jefferson Co, AL.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:53 am to I B Freeman
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Where did all these laws come from that allow the Fed to trasp into the state and go after these people? Frankly it was the same for EWE.
His name was RICO...he wore a diamond...
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:56 am to Godfather1
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Where did all these laws come from that allow the Fed to trasp into the state and go after these people? Frankly it was the same for EWE.
His name was RICO...he wore a diamond...
Ahhh the great federal catch all!!
Posted on 2/14/14 at 11:36 am to I B Freeman
Yea, let's trust a state jury/judge to render a fair AND accurate verdict. One, the judges are elected politicians & as anyone who has ever been involved in any legal dispute, criminal or civil,knows, La. judges have horrible, well earned, reputations as a whole for integrity and fairness, i.e., lack of same. Just walk into any court room in CDC & listen to the absolute crap that is called "justice" rendered there.St.Martin's parish. Livingston. It's no coincidence that EWE was twice found not guilty in state courts. Two, the Federal jury pool is a lot more representive of a fair & impartial jury of one's peers. He broke numerous Federal laws, he was prosecuted, found guilty and will serve his time in a Federal pen. I could care less who put this slime bucket away.
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