re: MTG was the voice of reason in the debate today

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She grew up on the beans & beer side of town.

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Your attraction to MGT is because she is a redneck Karen?

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Supporting Ukraine is the smart play.

Maybe, maybe not. I'm gonna go with only more death and destruction.

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Death and destruction in Ukraine and Russia? That's your worry?
All the while, our play in Ukraine will directly dictate future aggression to Taiwon?

Ukraine is a human shield. And that is a role that they are presently/actively pursuing. Which is good for us.
It is infinitely less expensive to help defend Ukraine than to militarize all of Ukraine's borders as a future defense strategy. There is absolutely zero benefit to the world with a Russian occupation of Kiev.

Plus... if we can help Ukraine hold out for the next election, we can provide an opportunity for Trump to be the arbiter for a peace deal.

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The majority of this bill (80%) is replenishing our military stockpiles and continuing to send old tech/weapons to Ukraine.

6 months from now that 60 billion will be just a faint memory.

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I agree.
The Ukraine spending is a drop in the bucket for our budget.
If you are against spending on Ukraine, I haven't heard your outrage to leadership (i.e. literally removing politicians who status quo the budget) for the rest of the budget.
So you don't really give a shite about Ukraine spending. It is just the next twitter hot political button (until the next one takes its place 6 months from now). Outrage is an internet fad.

If we are giving them "obsolete" weapons, why are we spending 60 billion dollars?

I know Im a silly goose, we have to replenish our stockpile......well wouldnt that come out of the 854 billion dollar budget, or, are you saying we did not even plan to replace the old stuff in our budget????????

By the way, when they say we are replenishing our stock, they mean our stocks that we gave them in Ukraine, they arent talking about inventory in the US. And its 24 billion. Plus 14 billion for new Patriot systems (which certainly are not "obsolete" and neither are the aforementioned 24 billion in missiles for Patriots).

36 billion of 60 billion is not "the vast majority", so where is the other 24 billion going? It says administration and economic social programs, oh thats what I tell the bank when I want a loan.

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I agree supporting Korea, I mean Viet Nam, I mean El Salvador, I mean Nicaragua, I mean Guatemala, I mean Afghanistan, I mean the entire middle east, I mean Ukraine will stop communists from overtaking the world.

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Funny.

Dishonest. But funny .

How many lives have we lost in Ukraine?
Do you know what a human shield is?
Would it impress you that Ukraine is volunteering for the opportunity to act as that shield against Russian expansion?

We shite the bed in Ukraine and how long before the invasion of Taiwon?
How long before the budget minded fad turns on Israel?

You realize that this is a fad? A twitter button. If you don't give a shite about all government spending (and by that, I mean taking serious action against politicians), then you are disingenuous about Ukraine spending.

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MTG

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voice of reason

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Does not compute.

That’s because that Ukrainian American knows most of those billions are going to corrupt politicians here and in Ukraine and the only result will be more dead people.

And that poster above, meansonny or whatever…it’s not often that you read words that are born out of pure evil and immorality. But the way that poster views human lives as nothing but fodder for a political game…that’s raw psychopathic evil.

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But the way that poster views human lives as nothing but fodder for a political game…that’s raw psychopathic evil.

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It is literally a war.
A war that was started unilaterally.
A war for territory and occupation.


If your solution to wars for territory and occupation is to have a peace protest, then you are literally inviting more war for territory and occupation.

The only way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good man with a gun.
Ukraine (not the US) is volunteering to be the good man. They need guns.

And how is it poor politics for Trump to do what Biden can't? Sue for peace. Be an actual leader. Get actual results (far better results than your peace protests against a bad man with a gun).

Are you conservative? 2A?
How can you not see your own hypocrisy?

I looked at this thread title and belly laughed again
Pissed NY Post stole my Moscow Marjie

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MTG was the voice of reason

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Heaven help us.

MTG is a nutjob who's the very reason Hakeem Jeffries will soon become the new SOH and Biden will enjoy four more years in the Oval Office.