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Moral Equivalence
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:25 am
I just don't understand how nobody in the MSM is having at least an honest discussion about ANTIFA.
They are acting like Trump was comparing the Nazis to the average hippie barista protester casually holding a sign. CNN (I know...) was straight up using video editing and 15 second clips to make it seem like the "nice people" Trump was talking about at the protest were the Nazis who say Ivanka shouldn't have married a Jew.
In reality, he was (obviously) comparing them to the anarchists who use Trump rallies and such as excuses to cause destruction and physical injury - like hitting random women walking down the street in the face with a bag of rocks.
How DO you rank one against the other? They are both evil.
They are acting like Trump was comparing the Nazis to the average hippie barista protester casually holding a sign. CNN (I know...) was straight up using video editing and 15 second clips to make it seem like the "nice people" Trump was talking about at the protest were the Nazis who say Ivanka shouldn't have married a Jew.
In reality, he was (obviously) comparing them to the anarchists who use Trump rallies and such as excuses to cause destruction and physical injury - like hitting random women walking down the street in the face with a bag of rocks.
How DO you rank one against the other? They are both evil.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:26 am to Blob Fish
quote:
I just don't understand how nobody in the MSM is having at least an honest discussion about ANTIFA.
because then they have to have a discussion about Communism and admit ANTIFA and other similar groups are the ones who started using violence to silence opposing thoughts, THEN they have to admit they ignored this after Berkeley (and the following incidents) and emboldened ANTIFA
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:29 am to Blob Fish
quote:
In reality, he was (obviously) comparing them to the anarchists who use Trump rallies and such as excuses to cause destruction and physical injury - like hitting random women walking down the street in the face with a bag of rocks.
Almost like certain groups use natural disasters and racists incidents to loot stores.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
ecause then they have to have a discussion about Communism and admit ANTIFA and other similar groups are the ones who started using violence to silence opposing thoughts, THEN they have to admit they ignored this after Berkeley (and the following incidents) and emboldened ANTIFA
It's funny because my girlfriend voted for Hillary (I know...gross) and texted me all these things yesterday that her hippie friends were telling her about what racist Trump said. I sent her one link to a site explaining ANTIFA and two videos of what they did at a Milo talk and Trump rally, and she couldn't believe it. She immediately understood.
Now, she's not the most political and doesn't really pay attention, but I feel like if more info got out about these frickers the average person would understand.
ETA: No pics of clueless girlfriend. I know this isn't the OT, but just to be clear
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:38 am to Blob Fish
quote:
my girlfriend voted for Hillary (I
Dump her
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:46 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
That was before I met her. She's a teacher in a liberalish large city and has a lot of misinformation spewed at her.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
because then they have to have a discussion about Communism and admit ANTIFA and other similar groups are the ones who started using violence to silence opposing thoughts, THEN they have to admit they ignored this after Berkeley (and the following incidents) and emboldened ANTIFA
Don Lemon accused Milo of hiring these people to cause a scene and then called him a White Supremacist. Milo should have sued him for that.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:48 am to Blob Fish
As I said in another thread. ANTIFA is a bunch of trash and the whole "punch a nazi" glorification is a scary slippery slope, but I don't put them on the moral level of the KKK. That seems pretty straight forward to me, but not to others.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:50 am to OMLandshark
quote:I can't stand that smug little twat.
Don Lemon
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:51 am to Blob Fish
quote:
I just don't understand how nobody in the MSM is having at least an honest discussion
I found the problem.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:52 am to OMLandshark
Clip of Robert Reich on Don Lemon calling ANTIFA a "right wing" mole
they wouldn't even admit ANTIFA was ANTIFA when they were literally creating riots
they wouldn't even admit ANTIFA was ANTIFA when they were literally creating riots
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:52 am to Blob Fish
quote:
I just don't understand how nobody in the MSM is having at least an honest discussion about ANTIFA.
They are acting like Trump was comparing the Nazis to the average hippie barista protester casually holding a sign. CNN (I know...) was straight up using video editing and 15 second clips to make it seem like the "nice people" Trump was talking about at the protest were the Nazis who say Ivanka shouldn't have married a Jew.
In reality, he was (obviously) comparing them to the anarchists who use Trump rallies and such as excuses to cause destruction and physical injury - like hitting random women walking down the street in the face with a bag of rocks.
How DO you rank one against the other? They are both evil.
My political leanings are toward the left, and I even think that it's bullshite
We should not condone violent "protesting"
Look I think the people protesting to to keep the statue up are wrong and many are bigoted and hateful, but as long as they aren't violent or inciting violence it is their right to peacefully protest.
I don't know who threw the first punch. Part of me suspects (thought that's probably based on my own prejudices) the neo-nazis and white supremacists there were hoping to incite violence with how well they were armed for a "peaceful protest". If that indeed is the case they are also wrong
But we shouldn't forget ANTIFA is wrong, they shouldn't seek out violent options because that only breeds more violence and there is no place for that in our society and the MSM should take far more of a hard line approach to call this out.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
This is what happened over the weekend
Trump - Denounced Neo Nazi/ KKK
Media - Mad because he denounced Antifa but Antifa didn't kill anyone and therefore were not violent.
Now Media/ Democrats is going to have Antifa wrapped around their necks the same way Trump has had White Supremacist around his neck. And let's face it Antifa is violent and destroying property as well as attacking cops.
So the media will come off pro violence in name of shutting down speech and even more anti cop over next 3 years. Trump completely owns them as fake news now.
Trump - Denounced Neo Nazi/ KKK
Media - Mad because he denounced Antifa but Antifa didn't kill anyone and therefore were not violent.
Now Media/ Democrats is going to have Antifa wrapped around their necks the same way Trump has had White Supremacist around his neck. And let's face it Antifa is violent and destroying property as well as attacking cops.
So the media will come off pro violence in name of shutting down speech and even more anti cop over next 3 years. Trump completely owns them as fake news now.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:08 am to OMLandshark
quote:
Don Lemon
was unbearable last night. Unfortunately, I use Sling TV and only get CNN at the moment. But his segment was one of the biggest pieces of propaganda masquerading as news that I've ever seen.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:09 am to Rakim
quote:
Now Media/ Democrats is going to have Antifa wrapped around their necks the same way Trump has had White Supremacist around his neck. And let's face it Antifa is violent and destroying property as well as attacking cops.
i hope this is true
i feel they will continue to lie about it
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:13 am to Rakim
quote:
So the media will come off pro violence in name of shutting down speech and even more anti cop over next 3 years. Trump completely owns them as fake news now.
They act like ANTIFA is just an innocent, understandably violent (in their delusional minds) reaction to "Trump's dangerous rhetoric".
There is a fundamental lack of understanding of who these people are. Trump fans understand because they went to the rallies and crossed paths with them. Others are either intentionally or accidentally clueless.
Are they anti-Nazi? Sure... but they are also anti-government and anti-democracy and pro-violence and pro-suppression of free speech.
The Nazis are just as much a reaction to the left's identity politics as ANTIFA is a reaction to The Donald.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:19 am to ctalati32
quote:
Look I think the people protesting to to keep the statue up are wrong and many are bigoted and hateful, but as long as they aren't violent or inciting violence it is their right to peacefully protest.
I lean that way too, especially since the town actually voted to take it down. But there WERE people there throughout the week who just stood there protesting. Some people just don't like what they term "revisionist history". I also watched a YouTube video of some kid whose relatives were apparently confederate soldiers simply stand there by the statue holding a confederate flag.
Jeer him. Boo him. But I don't think he deserves to be hit in the face with bags of rocks - which his how ANTIFA handles things.
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