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re: Miss South Africa Sparks Fury After Wearing Gloves With HIV-Positive Orphans
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:22 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:22 pm to buckeye_vol
I remember when Greg Louganis hit his head during the 1988 Olympics and bled all into the pool and allowed a doctor to stich him up without wearing gloves.
Because Greg Louganis didn't bother to disclose to anyone that he had AIDS.
But Louganis was hailed as a hero years later when he finally disclosed it...while putting that doctor at risk.
When PC trumps sound medical practices, then society is fricked.
Because Greg Louganis didn't bother to disclose to anyone that he had AIDS.
But Louganis was hailed as a hero years later when he finally disclosed it...while putting that doctor at risk.
When PC trumps sound medical practices, then society is fricked.
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:22 pm to Lsuchs
quote:It defeats the purpose because it she was concerned about germs, then the gloves aren't going to stop transmission when you put food into your mouth.
What do you mean by defeats the purpose?
On the other hand, she may have a legitimate phobia or OCD, and since those grounded in irrational fears or compulsions, then it irrational and counterproductive behavior shouldn't be too surprising.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:24 pm to L.A.
That article left out:
All of the adults she was with were given gloves, because they were handling the children's food.
All of the adults she was with were given gloves, because they were handling the children's food.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:24 pm to buckeye_vol
True. It went over my head, thought he was talking about being there in general
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:25 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Well yeah. Even though the risk of transmission was still probably low, it had far more risk then just basic normal interactions like in the OP.
But Louganis was hailed as a hero years later when he finally disclosed it...while putting that doctor at risk.
Of course, she may have an issue with germs in general though.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:25 pm to L.A.
She should not have gone if she had to wear gloves. Worked in a hospital for years. We gloved up with certain procedures but there were thousands of times not and you never knew if you were dealing an HIV+ person or not.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:26 pm to L.A.
How dare she take simple precautions around people with a deadly disease.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:26 pm to TigerintheNO
quote:That makes a lot of sense and should be the case. Is that true though?
That article left out:
All of the adults she was with were given gloves, because they were handling the children's food.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:27 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
She should not have gone if she had to wear gloves.
What if she didn't have to, just chose to?
quote:
Worked in a hospital for years. We gloved up with certain procedures but there were thousands of times not and you never knew if you were dealing an HIV+ person or not
Blood work or treating the injured is a little different than sitting next to kids that you are aware have HIV
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:27 pm to IAmReality
quote:Well the gloves aren't really going to really decrease the risk much, if at all.
How dare she take simple precautions around people with a deadly disease.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:29 pm to Diamondawg
quote:Well if it was just for a photo op then sure. But if she truly cares and the kids had a positive experience, then it's still a net positive (pun not intended).
She should not have gone if she had to wear gloves.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:31 pm to Lsuchs
quote:
It's like wearing a helmet when riding a bike. Doesn't mean you shouldn't be doing it in the first place just because you are taking extra steps to protect yourself
Yeah, that's not even a legit comparison.
quote:
ETA: if you meant specifically eating my bad.
That's exactly what I mean.
If you're wearing gloves, you should not be eating or drinking in that environment.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:33 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Well the gloves aren't really going to really decrease the risk much, if at all.
That's actually not true. The fact that she's eating doesn't decrease risk.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:35 pm to Lsuchs
quote:Don't know what kind of work you do but if you are that scared, never shake another hand. What is the difference in being aware and being unaware of someone with HIV?
Blood work or treating the injured is a little different than sitting next to kids that you are aware have HIV
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:44 pm to L.A.
even people at the soup kitchen wear gloves when giving out food
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:47 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Well transmission without the gloves would be extremely unlikely unless she has an open wound and that somehow came in contact with blood and even then it would still be less than likely.
That's actually not true.
So the gloves wouldn't have much, if any, impact on the risk for HIV transmission, BUT it makes a lot more sense to prevent the transmission the slew of other germs. Not a big deal either way though.
quote:Yeah it's counterproductive, but again that's primarily related to all the other germs.
The fact that she's eating doesn't decrease risk.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:47 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
Don't know what kind of work you do but if you are that scared, never shake another hand.
Wasn't talking about me, was talking about her. I don't care that she chose to wear gloves
quote:
What is the difference in being aware and being unaware of someone with HIV
You mention working at a hospital and not wearing gloves sometimes not knowing if a person has HIV or not. Obviously knowing could make someone more cautious as there is a potential (not likely) of an action resulting in your death that wouldn't exist otherwise
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:48 pm to L.A.
Because people are petty, negative and hateful and spend their time looking to criticize or bring others down.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:48 pm to hsfolk
quote:Yeah - to protect the people eating; not the servers.
even people at the soup kitchen wear gloves when giving out food
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:52 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
Yeah, that's not even a legit comparison
You are right in regards to your point, my comparison was made thinking you were talking about being there in general.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:53 pm
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