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Military action against NK should not give non-interventionists heart burn
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:06 am
North Korea is a state that routinely and openly threatens our forces and allies. If we have intelligence that asserts these threats are credible, we are within our right to act.
It also appears we are doing this the right way: with China's involvement and blessing.
Unlike the Syria strikes, this works to defend valid treaties and, after the dust settles, will improve stability in the region (if done correctly).
Consider me on the train for NK.
It also appears we are doing this the right way: with China's involvement and blessing.
Unlike the Syria strikes, this works to defend valid treaties and, after the dust settles, will improve stability in the region (if done correctly).
Consider me on the train for NK.
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:10 am to Tiguar
NK is all lip service. They haven't acted on one of their hundreds of threats.
Monitor them and leave them the frick alone until they actually try something. Then drop the hammer.
Monitor them and leave them the frick alone until they actually try something. Then drop the hammer.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:14 am to BayouBlitz
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NK is all lip service. They haven't acted on one of their hundreds of threats.
Absolutely. I suppose the possible action is about telling them to knock it the frick off. Like when you finally kick a shithead Chihuahua when it's been barking at you for the past 30 minutes.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:15 am to Tiguar
I mean, if you want to get technical, the United States violated the 1953 armistice when we placed nuclear weapons on the peninsula.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:15 am to Tiguar
I agree. I was going to get off the Train over a Syria invasion but I recognize that NK is worth the risk and that the NK people will be governed by themselves or China, not us.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:24 am to Tiguar
Honestly couldn't give two shits about Korea. Now if we can use them or that situation as leverage with China I'm all for it. The end game needs to be stronger hand to deal with China
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:26 am to BayouBlitz
I am on the fence, these guys had not had nukes for the majority of my life time. He can fire all of the conventional weapons he wants, but that dude with a nuke, no wonder China is worried. South Korea sure as frick is worried.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:27 am to BayouBlitz
China getting involved tells me this is different. They don't want a NK with an active nuclear program either
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:28 am to GetCocky11
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I mean, if you want to get technical, the United States violated the 1953 armistice when we placed nuclear weapons on the peninsula.
The North Koreans routinely violate the armistice, to include killing US military personnel. It was in the past, but it happened.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:49 am to Tiguar
No matter what Trump does it will give at least 50% of the people heartburn
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:04 pm to Tiguar
They need to wipe him out. Plain and simple. 2 million non Nork deaths is worth it.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:06 pm to SirWinston
A world where people cry about a limited strike against a weakened Syria because they don't want to be world police but cheer on military action against much more formidable NK is absolutely nuts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:09 pm to ninthward
quote:By all indications Baby Kim is significantly more unstable than his father and grandfather. That's what has China's interest. He's been blowing his family and inner circle up with AAA for the last several years, but apparently assassinating his own brother for no especially good reason really alarmed the Chinese.
I am on the fence, these guys had not had nukes for the majority of my life time. He can fire all of the conventional weapons he wants, but that dude with a nuke, no wonder China is worried. South Korea sure as frick is worried.
We're still very much talking a diplomatic/economic solution with (hopefully) significant Chinese pressure brought to bear, so you can remain on the fence about a hot war on the Peninsula. We aren't nearly there yet.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:10 pm to Tiguar
quote:
It also appears we are doing this the right way: with China's involvement and blessing.
Unlike the Syria strikes, this works to defend valid treaties and, after the dust settles, will improve stability in the region (if done correctly).
Consider me on the train for NK.
Also unlike Syria, a conflict with NK wouldn't be a religious conflict. Oh, it's not religious to us but it sure is damn well religious to our adversaries in Syria (minus Assad).
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:11 pm to Tiguar
quote:Just gonna quote this for posterity
Unlike the Syria strikes, this works to defend valid treaties and, after the dust settles, will improve stability in the region (if done correctly).
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:12 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Nuts would be standing by and allowing Fat Boy to strap a nuclear warhead on a missile. If intelligence data that both China and the U.S. possess indicate NK is close to doing that, his volatility and threats are not to be poo-poo'd. It would be nuts to ignore the threat.
A world where people cry about a limited strike against a weakened Syria because they don't want to be world police but cheer on military action against much more formidable NK is absolutely nuts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:14 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Valid point. I'm an interventionist and the thought of actual action against DPRK gives me heartburn. It may come to that, but it's not to be taken lightly.
A world where people cry about a limited strike against a weakened Syria because they don't want to be world police but cheer on military action against much more formidable NK is absolutely nuts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:16 pm to HubbaBubba
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Nuts would be standing by and allowing Fat Boy to strap a nuclear warhead on a missile. If intelligence data that both China and the U.S. possess indicate NK is close to doing that, his volatility and threats are not to be poo-poo'd. It would be nuts to ignore the threat.
I'm not advocating ignoring anything. But I'm also not seeing the contingencies in your post in most of the "let's get after NK!!!" posts today.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:16 pm to Navytiger74
quote:Hopefully so, but if he fires off one missile in any direction in the next week or so, I bet our navy is there to intercept and blow it up. Diplomatically, at that point, I believe both China and the U.S. will give him an ultimatum not to to fire off another at risk of full-on destruction.
We're still very much talking a diplomatic/economic solution with (hopefully) significant Chinese pressure brought to bear, so you can remain on the fence about a hot war on the Peninsula. We aren't nearly there yet.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:21 pm to HubbaBubba
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