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Middle class
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:33 pm
Convince me it’s not shrinking. No need to comment if you’re in agreement.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:38 pm to H2P
Leftwing policies produce the income inequality they bitch about constantly.
The places with major income gaps where the rich live in mansions and the poor live in slums is top to bottom run by people with a (D) next to their names. It's a deliberate act to push everyone towards government dependence.
Look at the "Life of Linda" clip the Biden administration put out. That's their "dream" for American citizens. 100% fully dependent on the government from cradle to the grave. No more parents, no more communities, no more anything except the cold hard hand of the authoritarian social activist crowd.
The places with major income gaps where the rich live in mansions and the poor live in slums is top to bottom run by people with a (D) next to their names. It's a deliberate act to push everyone towards government dependence.
Look at the "Life of Linda" clip the Biden administration put out. That's their "dream" for American citizens. 100% fully dependent on the government from cradle to the grave. No more parents, no more communities, no more anything except the cold hard hand of the authoritarian social activist crowd.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:47 pm to Taxing Authority
Having a family with little distress
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:48 pm to H2P
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Having a family with little distress
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:53 pm to H2P
The goals of elitists and utopians is always a controlled and generally impoverished populace. They hate a middle class above all things because they have enough at stake to pay attention and enough resources to occasionally intrude on the elitist playgrounds.
So yeah, the reason neither party bats an eye at inflation is because it mainly hurts those that all of them most want to hurt.
So yeah, the reason neither party bats an eye at inflation is because it mainly hurts those that all of them most want to hurt.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 12:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I do think the middle class is shrinking but I also think the expectations of a middle-class lifestyle are far more extravagant than they were 30-40+ years ago.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:01 pm to H2P
Probably should say with little financial distress.
I would add provide all essential needs and able to save at least 10% of annual income.
I would add provide all essential needs and able to save at least 10% of annual income.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:06 pm to fallguy_1978
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I also think the expectations of a middle-class lifestyle are far more extravagant than they were 30-40+ years ago.
I think this is more of the cause of the strife than just purely income inequality.
Everyone wants the $1M house and the fancy cars and the exotic vacations and think they deserve it.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:11 pm to jclem11
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Everyone wants the $1M house and the fancy cars and the exotic vacations and think they deserve it.
We weren't poor growing up. My dad was college educated, had a good job and we were solidly middle class.
We also lived in a 1500 sq ft house for family of 5. My sisters shared a bedroom. My dad drove 10 yr old vehicles. We took one family vacation per year where we drove to Astroworld or the beach. There were no ski trips or Disney vacations.
That was middle class in the 80s where I grew up. I wonder what percentage of the middle class in 2022 would consider that an acceptable lifestyle?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:17 pm to fallguy_1978
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We weren't poor growing up. My dad was college educated, had a good job and we were solidly middle class.
We also lived in a 1500 sq ft house for family of 5. My sisters shared a bedroom. My dad drove 10 yr old vehicles. We took one family vacation per year where we drove to Astroworld or the beach. There were no ski trips or Disney vacations.
That was middle class in the 80s where I grew up. I wonder what percentage of the middle class in 2022 would consider that an acceptable lifestyle?
This was my life growing up in the 90s and early 00s.
We knew no different and it was our normal.
The advent and mass adoption of the internet and social media likely led to this explosion in luxury taste for everyone regardless of income or social class.
Everyone wants to have the best things right now today and thus they go YOLOing on crypto or meme stocks to try and get that NOW.
Getting rich the conventional way over time isn't flashy or sexy and most folks do not want to take that path.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 1:29 pm to jclem11
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Everyone wants the $1M house and the fancy cars and the exotic vacations and think they deserve it.
70 years ago, one car per house was middle class
One phone per house.
A TV with 3 channels
No club sports for the kids
No video games
shite be expensive now, but everyone thinks they are entitled to all of it
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:20 pm to AUCom96
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The goals of elitists and utopians is always a controlled and generally impoverished populace. They hate a middle class above all things because they have enough at stake to pay attention and enough resources to occasionally intrude on the elitist playgrounds.
The thing the elites hate the most is gun ownership. Because that is the only thing that can stop them.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 2:28 pm to fallguy_1978
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but I also think the expectations of a middle-class lifestyle are far more extravagant than they were 30-40+ years ago.
Way way more.
People are unrealistic.
I grew up fairly poor, but our neighborhood was working/middle class. Superintendent of schools lived there, city engineer, truck drivers...as did all classes of people. It was very different than today. The wealthiest subdivision then would be loathed today, as the houses were small and not ostentatious.
Everyone worked on their own cars, regardless of lot in life, and all the kids played together. It was a very different time with faaar more realistic and ideal expectations.
The yuppie movement in the 80s destroyed those types of neighborhoods.
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