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re: Michael Moore slams Obama
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:16 am to Wtodd
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:16 am to Wtodd
So Blackhawk Down wasn't classified and Clinton never got any guff from the Right on it?
Iran Contra wasn't classified and Reagan never got any guff from the Left on it?
Iran Contra wasn't classified and Reagan never got any guff from the Left on it?
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:17 am to SirWinston
I disagree that the privitization of SS was less divisive. No way that would or ever will pass. Hell, Obama couldn't get that one passed when he had it all on his side.
Obamacare got passed but it is terrible as written. He sold his soul to everyone to get it passsed. It will be interesting to see how it changes as time goes on. It will also be interesting to see how it affects costs and how much taxpayer money is used to subsidize the insurance companies.
Obamacare got passed but it is terrible as written. He sold his soul to everyone to get it passsed. It will be interesting to see how it changes as time goes on. It will also be interesting to see how it affects costs and how much taxpayer money is used to subsidize the insurance companies.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:18 am to ManBearTiger
quote:You aren't talking about the guy setting in the corner of the situation room in a Erkel like jacket are you?
God I'm tired of this being taunted as an accomplishment of the administration, like he was actively involved in the effort at all.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:19 am to Jbird
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Erkel like jacket
Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:22 am to Jbird
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Michael Moore slams Obama
Lucky for Obama it wasn't a body slam.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:08 am to member12
The end of those wars, win, lose, or draw... will be on the list of what he is remembered for. Whether you are in favor of what he did, hated it, or could give a rat's patoot about the whole thing... its still likely to be a major part of how his administration is remembered.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:13 am to Jbird
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Michael Moore
Really don't like that guy
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:16 am to SirWinston
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So Blackhawk Down wasn't classified and Clinton never got any guff from the Right on it?
quote:
Iran Contra wasn't classified and Reagan never got any guff from the Left on it?
You still don't see the differences?
The mission to get OBL was NOT done during daylight hours as the others you mentioned, didn't involved hundreds of people like the others you mentioned and because the enemy didn't win, the enemy didn't have a chance to talk about their success and our failure.
IF the OBL mission failed, it would have been labeled as a failed training op IF it ever became public.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:22 am to ManBearTiger
I've come to the conclusion folks on the far left would like to live under the government of North Korea.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:55 am to HonoraryCoonass
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"When the history is written of this era, this is how you'll be remembered: he was the first black president," Moore said
I still think there will be plenty of revisionist historians that will fluff up Obama's "legacy, " and we have the type of country that will lap up the propaganda.
Seems likely, this is the country where a deficit spending, gun Grabbing, terror funding, abortion approving, amnesty granting, constitution violating, death squad backing actor is regarded as a conservative icon.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:57 am to Paluka
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lams Obama
I disagree that the privitization of SS was less divisive. No way that would or ever will pass. Hell,Bush couldn't get that one passed when he had it all on his side
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 12:00 pm to SirWinston
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Yeah he was in a lot danger sending in the Special Ops guys to take care of OBL.
He risked his entire presidency on it. To not acknowledge the risk he took is unfair.
This, Carter was ridiculed for the failed hostage rescue and that was a military attack on an enemy, if the choppers are shot down by Pakistan (a putative ally) less than a mile from their premier military Academy and the US can't explain why they were there (they couldn't) it's the kind of incident that starts wars not simply embarrassing.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 12:20 pm to socraticsilence
Exactly! Considering the fact that we were never 100% certain that OBL was in the house before the raid, Obama had to roll the dice. Joe Biden opposed the raid for this very reason. It could have easily ended up like the Iran rescue mission or Bay of Pigs.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 12:21 pm to Jbird
Moore is a money whore who panders to the far left. He's not an idealist, he's in it for the money.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 12:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Boil vast systemic problems down to simplistic emotional appeals
panders to the far left. He's not an idealist, he's in it for the money.
Cry about the problem
Scapegoat one individual
Fantasize how things could be better
Offer no practical answer
Cha-ching
Ideologues are idiots to buy this shite
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 12:30 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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If he doesn't find himself in his last 2 years, I say good riddance. Warren will finish what he could not.
I honestly laughed right out loud as I read that.
I can't tell if you really believe such silliness or if you were trying to make people chuckle.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 12:51 pm to Paluka
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I'm not necessarily an Obamacare supporter. But I do think it was an accomplishment to get it passed
1. A completely partisan vote.
2. His party manipulated the shite out of a gutted bill to circumvent the rules.
How was this such a huge accomplishment?
I think you answered your own question. Not saying it was a good or bad bill, but it was a MAJOR bill that drastically changed healthcare in this country. That he had to line up democrats and manipulate rules only makes more of an accomplishment than if everyone was holding hands.
Legislation is not easy, much less major, complicated legislation where the other party is dead set against you.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 1:00 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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If he doesn't find himself in his last 2 years, I say good riddance. Warren will finish what he could not.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 1:01 pm to jb4
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I've come to the conclusion folks on the far left would like to live under the government of North Korea.
No, they would like for you to live under a government like North Korea. They are relativist. What is good for you may not be good for them
Posted on 9/10/14 at 1:09 pm to Jbird
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Michael Moore sees President Obama's legacy as set. The progressive documentary filmmaker couldn't help but express his disappointment with the legislative accomplishments of the politician.
Maybe he'll make a documentary about it?
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