re: Michael Brown question?

Damn.

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He said there was a fight at the car. He said he ran and when the cop chased him he(Brown) doubled back towards the cop.

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Yep.
His account sounds exactly like the policeman's friend's rendition during the radio interview.

Again, the public is being done a horrible disservice by police handling of information here. Preliminary autopsy results which would include conclusory ballistic direction and trajectories should have been released. Preliminary second autopsy (if conducted) results should be released as well.

And the Chief of Police needs to get his act in gear.
The press is quoting him as saying the officer did not associate Brown with the robbery prior to the shooting. I don't think that is what the Chief intended to communicate. I think he meant the officer's initial contact with Brown was independent of the robbery. I don't think he intended to speak to additional awareness that may have occurred during the encounter after initial contact.

But the PR has been so catastrophically inept here that who knows WTF the guy actually knows or meant.

Looting of multiple stores right now.

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You mean like the Officer's name, or a description of events, or the video of the robbery? If facts are available based on the autopsy, they should be released.

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Officer's name

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Could not be evidence against the
officer

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the video of the robbery?

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Again

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If facts are available based on the autopsy, they should be released.

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Based on what? Because people want them?

Devils Advocate..Release the info you ask about. It turns out they charge the Officer criminally based upon evidence obtained from the autopsy..you think that gets into a criminal case?

Not trolling you. People sometimes let emotion take the place of common sense.

As for releasing the description of events, you can talk to 20 people that are witnesses and you can get 20 different versions..they aren't all lying, some people see different things.
I can imagine it takes awhile to interview anyone that says they saw something.

It's all good.

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NC_Tigah

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Agree to disagree.

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People sometimes let emotion take the place of common sense

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Not a matter of emotion. It is a matter in this case of potentially saving lives, injury and property. Could be accomplished with zero impact on any potential legal case. The statement the Police Chief made yesterday could and should have been made as soon as the social reaction was eminent. That would have been last Monday at the latest.

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Agree to disagree.

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OK.

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He said he ran and when the cop chased him he(Brown) doubled back towards the cop.

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This is absolutely tragic and I would not want to find my child dead in the street (as his mother does late in the video).

But his body is in the street and he is oriented/facing towards the left. And the police car is to the left. If he was running from the police and shot in the back he should have been oriented/facing towards the right.

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FWIW there are police vehicles on both sides

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To the best of my knowledge, only one is inside the crime scene tape. And it is to the left.

If I am incorrect please let me know.

ETA: I really do not want to go through a second viewing of the video. It was disturbing enough the first time.

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Yep. His account sounds exactly like the policeman's friend's rendition during the radio interview. Again, the public is being done a horrible disservice by police handling of information here. Preliminary autopsy results which would include conclusory ballistic direction and trajectories should have been released. Preliminary second autopsy (if conducted) results should be released as well. And the Chief of Police needs to get his act in gear. The press is quoting him as saying the officer did not associate Brown with the robbery prior to the shooting. I don't think that is what the Chief intended to communicate. I think he meant the officer's initial contact with Brown was independent of the robbery. I don't think he intended to speak to additional awareness that may have occurred during the encounter after initial contact. But the PR has been so catastrophically inept here that who knows WTF the guy actually knows or meant.

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Exactly, NC. I sometimes think that the Authorities are indulging in their *authority*, I.e., taking control of *evidence*...and in effect, they see themselves as taking control of the reaction to the evidence. Which is their job; such being control of the public.

But it's no different than a suspect/witness who refuses to cooperate, until...they can get their story concocted to fit their desired outcome. CYA.

In some ways, this whole scenario may be a good thing. Hopefully, in the future, arrogant Authorities who want to prolong and indulge in self-important, 15-minutes-of-fame on National media, will realize that such will be a costly and selfish indulgence.

When this stuff happens...there are witnesses. And there will be (post autopsy) corroborating evidence which backs up the true version. And they should put the known facts out there asap. Either policy is implemented to assure that they do (no more drawn out face-time on National tv) to counter opportunistic flamers or rogue passions...or the place burns.

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1. Ferguson, MO, is two thirds African-American by population. How did it come to pass that the Police Chief is white and 54 out of 57 Ferguson police officers are white? Something shady is going on there.

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The chief is an appointee of the elected mayor. The elected mayor is white.

The chief said he acknowledged the point about black officers but not enough apply that are qualified. Well that's his answer. I have no way to vet that answer obviously.

Curious what this has to do with the Michael Brown incident specifically though.