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Media Confirming Fake News Without Realizing It?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:29 pm
They're all citing anonymous sources who read a memo by Comey that could also be debunked. They have no evidence.
If there were ever a time where the media could be exposed as fake news, this is probably it.
Is this 4-D Intergalactic Chess by Trump, or just coincidental?
If there were ever a time where the media could be exposed as fake news, this is probably it.
Is this 4-D Intergalactic Chess by Trump, or just coincidental?
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:34 pm to TerryDawg03
They are just citing each other. If the NYT reports it, then CNN reads it and says that is their anonymous source. Then the WP hears it and so on.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:34 pm to TerryDawg03
Anonymous sources have always been used by journalists. It's only fake news when you don't like what the anonymous source says.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:37 pm to GFaceKillah
Anonymous sources are a joke. Imagine being accused of a crime and not being able to see who your accuser is.
If it doesnt work in a courtroom, why does it work in the media?
If it doesnt work in a courtroom, why does it work in the media?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:37 pm to TerryDawg03
quote:It could be, but that's why they try to find multiple, reliable sources.
They're all citing anonymous sources who read a memo by Comey that could also be debunked
quote:Actually it is evidence, although it's not foolproof. That doesn't make it nothing though.
They have no evidence.
quote:What would Trump have to do with the source? And why would he want this to be an issue, even if fake?
Is this 4-D Intergalactic Chess by Trump, or just coincidental?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:41 pm to PaperTiger
quote:Because it's not a courtroom, and if we could only get people on record, then the government would be able to get away with a lot more corruption.
Anonymous sources are a joke. Imagine being accused of a crime and not being able to see who your accuser is.
If it doesnt work in a courtroom, why does it work in the media?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:45 pm to TerryDawg03
The news media's sources are swamp creatures who do not want to be drained. And the media is being told exactly what it wants to hear.
Choot 'em!
Choot 'em!
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:47 pm to PaperTiger
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Anonymous sources are a joke.
No, they aren't.
quote:
The protection of sources, sometimes also referred to as the confidentiality of sources or in the U.S. as the reporter's privilege, is a right accorded to journalists under the laws of many countries, as well as under international law. It prohibits authorities, including the courts, from compelling a journalist to reveal the identity of an anonymous source for a story. The right is based on a recognition that without a strong guarantee of anonymity, many would be deterred from coming forward and sharing information of public interests with journalists. As a result, problems such as corruption or crime might go undetected and unchallenged, to the ultimate detriment of society as a whole. In spite of any such legal protections, the pervasive use of traceable electronic communications by journalists and their sources provides governments with a tool to determine the origin of information.[1] In the United States, the federal government legally contends that no such protection exists for journalists.[2][3]
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:52 pm to PaperTiger
quote:Because this nation has too many people like
f it doesnt work in a courtroom, why does it work in the media?
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GFaceKillah
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:53 pm to buckeye_vol
It basically is a courtroom. Theres an investigation going on (time, money, people investigating) because some Joe Blow said something to a newspaper.
The right to face your accuser is the a part of the 6th amendment.
At some point, the anonymous source comes out or the case falls apart.
The right to face your accuser is the a part of the 6th amendment.
At some point, the anonymous source comes out or the case falls apart.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 6:58 pm to GFaceKillah
Thats all fine and dandy. If the NYT wants to write a story using an anonymous source thats fine. I dont have to buy it. But when a case comes from it, and tax dollars start getting spent, thats when it becomes a problem. At some point the anonymous source either becomes known, or under the 6th amendment it falls a part.
I dont know which would supersede the other.
I dont know which would supersede the other.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:02 pm to GFaceKillah
You don't know what the frick you're even talking about
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:10 pm to PaperTiger
quote:
At some point, the anonymous source comes out or the case falls apart.
You do realize that nobody except Woodward and Bernstein knew who Deep Throat was until decades later when he basically confessed on his death bed, right? Ask Tricky Dick how that went.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:18 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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You don't know what the frick you're even talking about
Enlighten me then, bud.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:22 pm to PaperTiger
quote:Well it's not just because of that. And if the memos don't exist then the investigations aren't going to matter much anyways, but don't you want it all out so we can finally get to the bottom of it
It basically is a courtroom. Theres an investigation going on (time, money, people investigating) because some Joe Blow said something to a newspaper.
quote:Well yeah. It specifically says "In all criminal prosecutions" for a reason.
The right to face your accuser is the a part of the 6th amendment.
quote:Well the anonymous source revealed the potential existence of information pertinent to the "case." That doesn't make the source an "accuser."
At some point, the anonymous source comes out or the case falls apart.
Do you have a problem with Crimestoppers, who offers a reward for information regarding crimes, and keeps the person anonymous?
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:23 pm to thetigerman
What does that have to do with anything? It happens all the time. Its how prosecutors plea bargain. Nixon wasnt actually impeached correct? It was a forced resignation. I think if he had actually been charged and went forward with it, Nixon would have been able to see the accuser.
Trump wouldnt walk away like Nixon did. He would fight it. And he would probably tweet who the accuser was regardless of what the judge says
Trump wouldnt walk away like Nixon did. He would fight it. And he would probably tweet who the accuser was regardless of what the judge says
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:25 pm to TerryDawg03
quote:
Is this 4-D Intergalactic Chess by Trump, or just coincidental?
Just the lib media being the lib media. You know, being pieces of shite.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:36 pm to PaperTiger
quote:But you seem to be equating a source with an accuser. The Comey memo source isn't an accuser; he/she just revealed information pertinent to the issue. That doesn't mean that person is pertinent to the case beyond that revelation.
I think if he had actually been charged and went forward with it, Nixon would have been able to see the accuser.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:39 pm to buckeye_vol
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And if the memos don't exist then the investigations aren't going to matter much anyways
Correct.
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Well yeah. It specifically says "In all criminal prosecutions" for a reason.
What type of prosecution would this be considered? Honest question
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Do you have a problem with Crimestoppers, who offers a reward for information regarding crimes, and keeps the person anonymous?
This is a good point. I dont know how constitutionally the two coexist but I guess it is what it is.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 7:40 pm to TerryDawg03
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If there were ever a time where the media could be exposed as fake news, this is probably it.
Ever a time? Dude it's been happening daily for months now.
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