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re: Mayor Kip Antagonizing St. George residents... amid Public School Scandal

Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Because the services extend outside the city limits and also into the unincorporated areas. Why should people in the city have to pay for services that extend to other parts of town?


Let me get this straight.

You're mad that you don't have to pay taxes for services you receive? BR city is subsidizing St George in this regard. They chose to give St George a free ride.

The alternative would have been to cut off the bus routes at the city limits, or to have no routes at all.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:40 pm to
Perhaps St. George would've liked a say in the matter.

FWIW, that tax was little more than a crony money grab. I still see the same CATS buses all over town with only one or two passengers.

And what happens a little over a year after the tax passes? CATS director forced to step down over unaccounted for funds.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36179 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:45 pm to
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CATS was getting supplemental funding from the city/parish general before the tax was passed. Still not sure why that's relevant.


FYI

CATS' 2014 budgets indicates they will take in about 24 million dollars in revenues.

14.8 million will be from property taxes (most of which was just passed)which accounts for 61% of the income

Other sources of revenues projected are:

2.6 million from fees, contracts, advertising
4.8 Federal Grants
1.2 Hotel/Motel taxes
.55 Parish transportation Fund

So it can be clearly determined that people outside of the taxing district for CATS do provide some funding for CATS since we are a part of the Parish, we are apart of the United States, and we have hotels and motels outside of the taxing district. Of course our share is much smaller, but then again our needs a lot less.

BTW, I would suspect that when CATS applies for Federal grants they do it based on 400K citizens and not just the citizens in the taxing district.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36179 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 4:46 pm to
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Let me get this straight. You're mad that you don't have to pay taxes for services you receive? BR city is subsidizing St George in this regard. They chose to give St George a free ride. The alternative would have been to cut off the bus routes at the city limits, or to have no routes at all.


It's not a free ride, but it's certainly a cheap ride.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:52 pm to
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The state Department of Education will announce Thursday that it is auditing the East Baton Rouge Parish School System, following allegations that students were allowed to cheat in online courses and graduate without meeting requirements, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
State Superintendent John White confirmed to NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune Wednesday that the state is looking into academic records in the school system.
“We have received some indication that there may be a discrepancy on some academic records in East Baton Rouge Parish,” White said. “We’re going to be looking into the situation.”
White said the next public step will be to issue written communication to the school district, but could not confirm when that would take place.
East Baton Rouge Parish School System spokesman Keith Bromery declined to comment on the situation until the state provides more specific information about what’s being alleged.


....but this is really just about race and political control.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:58 pm to
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Perhaps St. George would've liked a say in the matter.



Should the city of Baton Rouge get a say in taxes imposed only on St. George citizens?

I'd like to confirm that you still feel this way.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79881 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 6:59 pm to
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Should the city of Baton Rouge get a say in taxes imposed only on St. George citizens?


First off, you need to get back to me if and when that actually ever happens.

But if it's something that affects the whole Baton Rouge metro area? Yeah, they should have a say in the matter. They certainly SHOULDN'T be turned away at the polls if it affects them.

Fact is, you know as well as I do that vote was gerrymandered to rig it to pass. Had the unincorporated areas been allowed to vote on it, there's no way it passes.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:10 pm to
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But if it's something that affects the whole Baton Rouge metro area? Yeah, they should have a say in the matter. They certainly SHOULDN'T be turned away at the polls if it affects them.


Wow. What a slippery slope.

Baton Rouge will be affected by everything St George does so I guess they should have a vote in all sales taxes in the area as well as the Mayor of St George.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79881 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:13 pm to
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Baton Rouge will be affected by everything St George does so I guess they should have a vote in all sales taxes in the area as well as the Mayor of St George.


Not if St. George is incorporated as its own town, they won't.

Why are you so against self-determination?
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:20 pm to
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Not if St. George is incorporated as its own town, they won't.


Is the city of Baton Rouge not incorporated? Earlier you said anyone anyone affected should be able to vote, even if they don't live in that taxing district.

quote:

Why are you so against self-determination?


You're the one who thinks people in unincorporated areas should get to vote on taxes that only apply to residents within incorporated areas of Baton Rouge and baker.

You're all over the map with this, so to speak.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36179 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:32 pm to
Here is reality, the people who are telling us today that it is best we all stick together because it makes us stronger, decided to split us up tom get their tax agenda passed.

So what is it really?

Are we stronger when we stand together or are we stronger when the power brokers in city hall get their way.

Part of EBR was carved out recently, why not carve up another area? Answer that question.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79881 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 7:36 pm to
Let's just put it on this basis:

Who benefits more...St. George from being part of Baton Rouge? Or Baton Rouge from having St. George as a part if it?

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:17 pm to
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The only way I see that it works is if their residents do not demand the same level of government services they currently have.



And this all started because of PUBLIC schools? Fat fricking chance.
Posted by Tigahs
Member since Jan 2004
22836 posts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:38 pm to
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