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re: Masayoshi Son: I definitely would not have made this investment
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:23 am to russellvillehog
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:23 am to russellvillehog
quote:That's the part of his investment that makes sense.
Trumps tax plan for businesses are yuge and businesses are excited.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:27 am to ForeLSU
Do you honestly believe that a 15 to 20% increase in profit margin can't increase a company's chance of being successful?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:29 am to ForeLSU
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Doesn't have shite to do with the likelihood of success of startups
The frick it doesn't
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:30 am to ForeLSU
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Doesn't have shite to do with the likelihood of success of startups
wonder if that Bert's guy with the beeswax products makes a butthurt salve
Posted on 12/7/16 at 6:54 am to ForeLSU
It appears there are some BA students in this thread that are in their first semester but are already wicked good at biznass.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:46 am to MrCarton
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that's the opposite of a good question.
It depends on the investment, it was stated in the other thread that he intends to invest in startups. A venture capitalist is not that interested in the minutiae of tax structure when evaluating an investment in an early stage company. He's looking for significant return at an exit event. The company likely won't even be profitable for the bulk of the time his money is invested. Business regulation has little impact on most startups as well, unless the business model is typically targeting dealing with regulations in a specific industry.
Had Son stated he was looking to buy established businesses in specific industries, infrastructure, defense, tech, etc., then his comment about Trump would have made more sense.
So yes, if the fund intends to target "startups" in the US, his opportunity for success really doesn't change that much based on who's elected, or, outside of drastic policy shifts, what their specific policies may be.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:48 am to joshnorris14
this is too high energy!!!!
Posted on 12/7/16 at 7:54 am to ForeLSU
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ForeLSU
I am usually reluctant to call someone out for just being argumentative, but I really can think of no other reason you are digging your heels in. The alternative is that you just have very little business acumen.
Do you really think deregulation, tax structure, and corporate confidence have nothing to do with investment decisions? Have you ever actually pitched a business plan to either private or corporate investors?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:11 am to Ag Zwin
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I am usually reluctant to call someone out for just being argumentative
probably guilty as charged, especially after a few scotches at a Christmas party last night
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Do you really think deregulation, tax structure, and corporate confidence have nothing to do with investment decisions? Have you ever actually pitched a business plan to either private or corporate investors?
I've ran my own businesses for over 25 years, one of them being a venture backed software company. From a "traditional" business standpoint, those factors are absolutely important. They directly impact cash flow, growth potential, valuation and ROI, etc. I have several potential shifts I may make depending how pass-through's are treated from a tax standpoint. I own some Vulcan Materials stock, it's up about 30% since the election.
But from what is commonly thought of as a "startup", they have much less impact on the investment decision because they play so little of a role from a success/failure standpoint. Investors are primarily focused on 2 things here, A) can the team execute and B) does the business model have the ability to disrupt a sizable market. There was around $60B worth of venture capital invested in the US last year. If a firm is evaluating the next Whatsapp or AirBNB, both started in the last 8 years, for example, they're not really going to worry about simple changes in corporate tax structure or what the EPA is up to.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:14 am to ForeLSU
Fair enough.
I still think it is overstating to say these had no effect on his decision, but I also believe his statement that he would not have done this if HRC has won was probably a bit hyperbolic. I don't know that, though.
I still think it is overstating to say these had no effect on his decision, but I also believe his statement that he would not have done this if HRC has won was probably a bit hyperbolic. I don't know that, though.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:34 am to Ag Zwin
Did he just committe 50 billion on the word from Trump that things are going to be exciting and profitable in the future in the US?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:35 am to ForeLSU
I want to point out that it's highly unlikely that all $50B are going towards seed capital. Later stage start ups are a lot more concerned with profitability
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:54 am to ForeLSU
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It depends on the investment, it was stated in the other thread that he intends to invest in startups. A venture capitalist is not that interested in the minutiae of tax structure when evaluating an investment in an early stage company. He's looking for significant return at an exit event.
dude just fricking stop. The business environment is controlled by these cock suckers in government at the city, county, state and fed level. If you want to improve outcomes, spend your money on politics. It's proven.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 10:55 am
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