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Maine SoS: I Found Trump Guilty of Thing He Wasn’t Charged with Using a Lower Standard

Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8204 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:40 am
Brietbart

On Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “Situation Room,” Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) responded to a question on the witnesses at the hearing before her ruling removing 2024 Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump from the ballot lacking any firsthand knowledge and her finding Trump guilty of fomenting an insurrection despite Special Counsel Jack Smith not charging Trump with that by stating that the proceeding was “different than a criminal proceeding in a criminal court. The standard is preponderance of the evidence.”
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5190 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:44 am to
in other words it's a matter of personal opinion

protecting democracy, undemocratically
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
489 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:46 am to
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in other words it's a matter of personal opinion


It’s a matter of propaganda opinion thanks to our media
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21699 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:04 am to
She looks like that married Tennessee cop that was fired for having sex with a bunch of her coworkers.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3369 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:11 am to
Absolutely no way this holds up on appeal, right? I mean... it simply can't.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34984 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:12 am to
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I Found Trump Guilty


Fascist Authoritarian, too blinded by her feelings to realize how this essentially destroys Rule of Law.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:16 am to
A question for any of you who actually graduated from law school, what does this even mean?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58125 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:28 am to
It’s weird how all of these state officials are now suddenly constitutional scholars !
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 10:29 am
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
1092 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:30 am to
To me, this is just for people to be able to use before it’s struck down by actual courts.

They’ll be able to say something like, “the Maine SOS said this and that.”

To which you can respond, “well that was struck down.”

Then ultimately they would respond with, “yea well she’s right and he’s a facist ya da ya da ya da…”

By then, the brainwashed have had their brains washed and onto the next bullshite. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8370 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:32 am to
I’m always eagerly awaiting SFP’s hot take in threads like these
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12994 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:52 am to
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I’m always eagerly awaiting SFP’s hot take in threads like these


He’s patiently awaiting his talking points from CNN
Posted by GeronimoBernstein
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2016
317 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:55 am to
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A question for any of you who actually graduated from law school, what does this even mean?


I barely know which part of this absurdity is most profound. To answer your question, there are three "standards of proof" in our legal system, preponderance of evidence being the lowest and used only to find civil liability. Next is "clear and convincing" which requires more than "preponderous", and lastly, the highest standard, used in finding criminal guilt is "beyond a reasonable doubt."

But, let's get back to this absolute madness of an absurdity we're all forced to suffer. To begin, the Secretary of State in Maine of any other state is not a finder-of-fact with any business weighing evidence. And that's just for starters.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
12079 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:57 am to
Screw her Fascist political hit job prove she is taking $$$$$ from the Dem machine..

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36191 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:00 am to
There is no living with these people. A secessionist movement is the only hope for small government conservatives and libertarians. The United States of America is beyond saving.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
5426 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:01 am to
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I’m always eagerly awaiting SFP’s hot take in threads like these


Shouldn’t be long now.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:01 am to
It means we have a provision in our Constitution that is open to interpretations that sound unfair. Whether you support Trump or not, there some objective interpretation issues that need to be resolved.

As I wrote in another thread, I don't think it is fair to call a Constitutional Amendment "undemocratic." It was democratically passed by democratically elected representatives and Senators, and then democratically ratified by the states. It renders certain oath-breaking insurrectionists ineligible to hold state and federal offices.

SCOTUS will resolve this. Hopefully.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261251 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:03 am to
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I’m always eagerly awaiting SFP’s hot take in threads like these


It requires an opinion, thats his weakness.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17850 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:04 pm to
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She looks like that married Tennessee cop that was fired for having sex with a bunch of her coworkers.



Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140684 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:08 pm to
Do you feel good about your side doing this kind of thing?

I am curious if you people see this as a good strategy.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56638 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 12:18 pm to
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The standard is preponderance of the evidence


In what court?
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