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re: Looks like Swedish officials are starting to come out supporting Trumps claims
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:04 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:04 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Are you talking about Islam or Islamic extremism?
I will never understand liberal stubborness on Islam.
What more do they need to see that is diametrically opposed to everything that claim to stand for until they stand with the rest of the world against Islamic extremism?
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:07 pm to Vacherie Saint
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never understand liberal stubborness on Islam.
They're religiously committed to the idea of multiculturalism. So no culture is better than another (except for all of them versus the Western culture). And no matter what you say or what you present, they're committed to that idea. They cannot abandon it even at knifepoint.
My little sister and I had a discussion where she couldn't call the Mayan culture "brutal" or "barbaric," because that damaged her sensibilities.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:07 pm to Iosh
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This would be a bigger boom if I wasn't right
You really believe that Sweden doesn't have a huge problem with Muslim refugees & immigrants?
Like I've said before, and even though you sometimes try to hide it, you are the epitome of a clueless little sjw/snowflake.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:07 pm to the808bass
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:08 pm to KCT
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Like I've said before, and even though you sometimes try to hide it, you are the epitome of a clueless little sjw/snowflake.
He's not. He just has blind spots. We all do.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:11 pm to Iosh
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Are you talking about Islam or Islamic extremism?
Sorry, but the two can no longer be separated. We need moderate muslims to clean up their shite and frankly, in our PC fear, we really aren't even asking them to. The west cannot do it. There are volumes of polling data out there that show massive, passive sympathy for extremism. That culture can only change from within.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Then why use both phrases? Is it because you're trying to mask the implications of "stand with the world against Islam?"
Sorry, but the two can no longer be separated.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:22 pm to Iosh
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Then why use both phrases?
If he just used one, you'd make him add the other. So he put both in one post.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:23 pm to the808bass
quote:I'm not making him do anything, I just want to tease out what he actually believes, and thinks liberals are fools for not believing. "Standing against Islamic extremism" is a lot more defensible (and feasible!) than "standing against Islam." I get easily irritated when people switch between a weak but defensible argument and a strong but overstretched one while pretending they're making the same point.
If he just used one, you'd make him add the other. So he put both in one post.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:23 pm to Iosh
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Then why use both phrases? Is it because you're trying to mask the implications of "stand with the world against Islam?
Yes. You got me. I want to burn all the moozlims.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:25 pm to Iosh
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I'm not making him do anything, I just want to tease out what he actually believes, and thinks liberals are fools for not believing.
uh huh
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:30 pm to Iosh
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I'm not making him do anything, I just want to tease out what he actually believes, and thinks liberals are fools for not believing
Wow. Somebody takes themselves seriously.
Let me use a metaphor. Should the Catholic Church be held accountable for pedo priests? Yes, of course. The court system will usually flesh out criminals, but a cultural change must occur within the church to establish zero tolerance, reassure parishioners, and protect the values of the church.
Islam is no different. We can fight the islamic state on the battlefield, but where is the war on ideas being waged within the faith? Clerics speak out and are murdered as thousands of young people are radicalized. How is capitulation, minimizing, and ignoring problems making any of us, including them, safer?
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:32 pm to Iosh
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I'm not making him do anything, I just want to tease out what he actually believes, and thinks liberals are fools for not believing.
#LIAR
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:33 pm to Allyn McKeen
Even if there is no violence associated with the Muslim refugees, how does a nation sustain adding 160,000 people to your economy and only 500 found jobs? Sweden provides housing, food, etc. to them. There has to be some issues with the refugees if they added new restrictions to keep them out. From 160,000 one year to 29,000.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:42 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:I don't see how migration and integration is "capitulation" to ISIS. Their expressly stated goal is to eliminate what they call the "gray zone" of coexistence between Muslims and non-Muslims. That's also why their strategy is dependent on low-frequency, high-visibility terror attacks, because that allows a single terrorist to dominate the public perception that would otherwise be colored by the thousands of regular families having regular neutral-to-positive daily interactions with society.
Islam is no different. We can fight the islamic state on the battlefield, but where is the war on ideas being waged within the faith? Clerics speak out and are murdered. How is capitulation, minimizing, and ignoring problems making any of us, including them, safer?
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:43 pm to Iosh
quote:Point of order. That's AQ's model. Not ISIL's.
I don't see how migration and integration is "capitulation" to ISIS. Their expressly stated goal is to eliminate what they call the "gray zone" of coexistence between Muslims and non-Muslims. That's also why their strategy is dependent on low-frequency, high-visibility terror attacks
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:45 pm to Navytiger74
quote:Who are you replying to again? Do you think I'm gonna say some shite and not have a LINK?
Point of order. That's AQ's model. Not ISIL's.
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:50 pm to Iosh
quote:You post an old arse Dabiq article. Their primary tool for mass propaganda (aside from social media) is now call Rumiyah. And as their losses in the actual so-called Islamic State (in Iraq and Syria) have mounted, their basic message to followers, homegrown violent extremists, and others in Western countries is "do something with what you have, be it knives, guns, vehicles, etc." Just do something.
Who are you replying to again? Do you think I'm gonna say some shite and not have a LINK?
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Hell they claim attacks that they don't have anything to do with. Any guy in the west who visited an ISIL-affiliated twitter account is claimed as a warrior for the Islamic state.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:51 pm to Iosh
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integration
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Their expressly stated goal is to eliminate what they call the "gray zone" of coexistence between Muslims and non-Muslims.
Great. Can we get a little help from the moderate muslims instead of obfuscation and abetting? The problem is bigger than many will admit. PC tippy toeing has made the situation worse in places like Sweden. Not documenting the race of a criminal? C'mon man.
have a listen to Mr Shapiro on the issue
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:56 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Moderate Muslims are dying fighting ISIS right now. Whenever someone says "why don't the moderates condemn ISIS" I mentally append "in English, and in front of me, for the benefit of my personal peace of mind." They condemn ISIS constantly, widely, loudly. But there's none so deaf as those who will not hear.
Can we get a little help from the moderate muslims instead of obfuscation and abetting?
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