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re: Looks like Swedish officials are starting to come out supporting Trumps claims

Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:08 pm to
i already agreed with you on page 1

i'm just throwing gas on the thread while i look for new hoodies on amazon
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:09 pm to
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The anti immigration politicians


They are almost #1 in the polls there. They went from some fringe party to being the leading power. So make fun of them because they are the anti immigration party. They will just make all the decisions after the election, but by God you had a snappy zinger about them.
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:11 pm to
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So are these violent neighborhoods? Yes. Do many immigrants live there? Yes. Does that automatically mean they are the cause of such violence? No. 
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:12 pm to
the truth about sweden

If this link doesn't work it's because I am on mobil, and took the link from Google so it may be a link to work for the YouTube app.

Worst case Google "the truth about sweden." Go to videos. First video.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:13 pm to
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The hilarious part about all this hand-wringing is that the most crime-ridden Malmo suburb would be one of the safer US cities for Muslims.
Fify
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:15 pm to
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The fox news report was already proven to be riddled with bias and misleading quotes by police officers. Yet, this is where Trump sources his information from. Not from intelligence briefings or meetings with foreign nationals. No he watches fox news and repeats it to the masses.

Just to be fair, technically, there are many issues in sweden, but to infer, like trump did, that they were caused by immigration is unfair and largely inaccurate


First of all, that wasn't a fox news report. It was a documentarian who was interviewed on a fox show. He was also interviewed on CNN by Don Lemon.

Second of all, Sweden's own crime stats show that there is a huge upswing in crime that coincides with the muslim immigration ramp up, and they even went as far as to stop cataloging ethnicity in crime statistics to hide the issue.

Lastly, I have seen BBC reporters and a documentarian seperately attacked by muslims in Sweden. I've seen a rape being live streamed, I've seen a riot where cars were burned. I've seen a subway chemical attack, and a neo nazi terror attack. All of this has happened just in the last few weeks in spite of concerted efforts by the Swedish government and press to hide these probelms.

You can't call yourself a humanitarian - a liberal, and pretend like there isn't a problem here.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:15 pm to
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They are almost #1 in the polls there. They went from some fringe party to being the leading power.
"almost #1," "the leading power" = "3rd place and trailing the socialists by 10 points"

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Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:18 pm to
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, that they were caused by immigration is unfair and largely inaccurate.
So, all of the native born Swedes have decided to become Vikings again?

Is that what's causing this?
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:19 pm to
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Second of all, Sweden's own crime stats show that there is a huge upswing in crime that coincides with the muslim immigration ramp up,
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Swedish government data show overall crime rates down slightly in 2015 and 2016 after the nation of 10 million admitted 163,000 asylum seekers, more than any other European country as a share of its population.

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Recent data published by Brå found that from 2015 to 2016, overall crime rates decreased slightly. There was a 13% increase of reported rapes in 2016 over 2015, but the number was lower than in 2014 and about the same as in 2011.

Horowitz disputed that, telling Fox on Monday that "between 2012 and 2016, the murder rate is up almost 70%" and "rape between 2007 and 2015 is up a similar number, almost 70%. These are their (Brå) statistics, not my statistics."
So "Sweden's own crime stats" = "Numbers Horowitz pulled out of his arse"

(Note: "Brå" is the stats department of the Swedish Ministry of Justice. Languages are funny.)
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:22 pm to
You are fricking wrong. A total lying pos. Literally it is like 3 spots lower than Chicago for violent crimes in the world. fricking retard.
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:23 pm to
They came from no where and are now #3. They have momentum. Trends show they will keep rising. Keep pretending it's going great over there.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:24 pm to
#3 in what? The Russellvillehog ranking of invented facts to get really mad on the Internet?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:24 pm to
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Maybe if you read more than just right wing news youu would know 1) yeah it is rather made up. 2) the police in those areas are saying the "no go zones" are made up.


Exactly correct.

LINK

The overriding problem though appears to be that Sweden is trying their best to ignore the problem in the hopes that it just goes away.

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This is not to say that there are no problems in these areas, there is a reason that they have been defined as 'particularly vulnerable'. But the advantage of the definition is that it has meant a significant rise in resources, said Åkerlund. Today, there are twice as many police officers on the beat in Botkyrka compared to only a year and a half ago.


When you have an area where it's part of the routine that police MUST escort emergency personnel into in order to keep the emergency personnel from being attacked, that's pretty much a "no-go" area whether the officials want to call it that or not.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:30 pm to
It's just so shocking to even think for a second that the hordes of poor Muslims could be any way related to crime and general degradation in Sweden. Come on, just look at every Muslim country band tell me Muslims don't bring peace and prosperity wherever they settle en masse.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:31 pm to
Your own graph shite head lol
Posted by Mulat
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:33 pm to
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Excerpt quote:But it turned out to be a trap. When the woman came into the accommodation, the Afghans threw themselves over her and held her down while they took turns beating and raping her all night - with joy, laughter and applause. The men raped the woman both orally, vaginally and anally, some times at the same time. When police found the woman in the apartment the morning after, she was smeared in blood and in a state of apathy. She was injured so severely from the prolonged, sadistic gang rape that she had to sit in a wheelchair and be cared for in a psychiatric clinic for four weeks.


People who defend or in any way excuse this behavior themselves are no better than these animals
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:35 pm to
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There was a 13% increase of reported rapes in 2016 over 2015, but the number was lower than in 2014 and about the same as in 2011.


Your own link shows rapes skyrocket from about 25 per 100k to 60 in '14 and stated 13% increase again in '16. Rapes have more than doubled.

Total crime rates mean little. It could be shoplifting or the decriminalization of prostitution driving that number. Murder, rape, sexual assault, and gun crimes are up.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:36 pm to
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“For the sake of the American people,” Akesson and Karlsson wrote, “with whom we share so many strong historical and cultural ties, we can only hope that the leaders in Washington won’t make the same mistakes that our socialist and liberal politicians did.”


Those are synonymous in this country.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:36 pm to
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It's just so shocking to even think for a second that the hordes of poor Muslims could be any way related to crime and general degradation in Sweden. Come on, just look at every Muslim country band tell me Muslims don't bring peace and prosperity wherever they settle en masse.




Yeah, anyone with a fully functioning, semi-unbiased mind can clearly recognize this. It's just funny, Muslims are against almost the entire Democratic platform, yet Democrats champion them because it's the opposite of what they right does (except Bill Maher, and least he still thinks independently).

Both sides are guilty of the "do the opposite of the other party" shite. It's laughable and sad at the same time.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 2:39 pm to
Oh God, I mixed up the posts you were replying to and played myself
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 2:40 pm
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