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Liberal Students at GWU love Trump's Tax Plan

Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18709 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:19 am
If Bernie had written it exactly as it is.

LINK

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:20 am to
This is why a college degree is now useless
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14786 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:28 am to
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This is why a college degree is now useless


Uh, yeah. Ok.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18709 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:30 am to
If a man on the street guy tries to interview me about something I don't know about, I'm either going to flat out say "I don't know anything about this" or just decline the interview.

These things hardly work out well for the interviewee.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:33 am to
Its not worthless, it just doesnt actually equate to the person holding it knowing anything
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17449 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:36 am to
What it comes down to is there isn't anyone alive that truly believes we don't need tax reform. If you take the R and D out of the plan, I bet 90% of it everyone would agree on.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:40 am to
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3253 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:49 am to
I would use the words “group think” but that would imply actual brain function. This is straight up parroting, a travesty considering how much money these people are borrowing to “learn.”
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:54 am to
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This is why a college degree is now useless


More like "why do we put so much emphasis into what the politically uninformed generation has to say." Kinda like the other day of the 19 year-old female blogger trying to school the country on politics. Give me a break.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:01 am to
The weird thing about that video is that 2 of the 3 things he brought up were super anti-socialist. Elimination of the death tax and small business tax relief??? You kids are capitalists lol.

Also, I will give those kids credit for the final 1 minute of the video where they at least show a modicum of self awareness.
Posted by John Gotti
Vestavia HIlls, AL
Member since Jul 2013
3370 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:15 am to
Most people that vote are ignorant.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18709 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:30 am to
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Also, I will give those kids credit for the final 1 minute of the video where they at least show a modicum of self awareness.



Same here. I am not so sure we'd get that same reaction from students elsewhere (looking at you West Coast).
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8323 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:40 am to
No, it’s really not.


This is why it’s important to get an actual college degree in a STEM field and not a gender studies degree with a minor in renessaince queer theory from butt-frick-U

US colleges are still the best in the world at training engineers, scientists and computer programers. Don’t make the mistake of lumping that success in with the stupidity that these young socialists hold so dear to their tender hearts. Don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water. The right college degrees are still immensely valuable.
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:41 am to
I love this stuff.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18709 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:43 am to
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funnystuff



Well said.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112413 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:05 pm to
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This is why a college degree is now useless


College is great. The problem is that HS and colleges don't get involved with critical thinking. It's either 'what I say is the truth' or 'there is no truth so everything is just fine.' Truth requires careful examination and students aren't good at it.

I demonstrated this in a graduate class many years ago.
There were about 20 students and I read the following position on saving the environment:

'In order to save the environment for future generations we will have to change certain lifestyle choices. We will have to adjust thermostats, we will have to drive more fuel efficient cars. It will be necessary to limit a lot of options. You don't need a second home at the lake. Every third offspring should be executed. The amount of money the govt spends on alternative fuels must be increased.'

After that short 20 second speech I asked how many agreed. All students agreed. Me: "So you want to murder every 3rd child?"

They were shocked. They are not accustomed to listening to information and analyzing it. The same applies to what they read.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:15 pm to
If i were teaching today, i would do MANY assignments where i presented the students with a problem, idea, or statement asserted as fact and require the following answers from them

1. Is your immediate reaction to agree or disagree with the assertion or do you have an initial solution to the problem?

2. What information have i failed to provide that would make assessing the assertion more convincing one way or the other or understanding the problem better?

3. What information, if you discovered it, would tend to make you rethink your initial reaction

4. Try to find and supply any information you can find re: questions 1 and 2

5. Whatever conclusion you have drawn, can you articulate what you expect opposing conclusions might be and why that person would believe they are correct?

6. How would you seek to convince them that your understanding was correct

This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50240 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

No, it’s really not.


This is why it’s important to get an actual college degree in a STEM field and not a gender studies degree with a minor in renessaince queer theory from butt-frick-U

US colleges are still the best in the world at training engineers, scientists and computer programers. Don’t make the mistake of lumping that success in with the stupidity that these young socialists hold so dear to their tender hearts. Don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water. The right college degrees are still immensely valuable.


Bingo.

The odds that the kids interviewed are in useless degree programs are pretty high.

I was one of those kids 20 years ago, unfortunately. Useless liberal arts degree parroting the latest Dem talking points.

Fortunately my post graduate degrees are useful.
Posted by biggsc
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Member since Mar 2009
34209 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:28 pm to
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This is why a liberal arts college degree is now useless

FIFY
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112413 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:29 pm to
That's a good approach. Another approach is what I called 'the argumentation tree.'

Start with a proposition.

Have students give 2 reasons why it is wrong.

Then, have students give 2 reasons why each of the previous two reasons are actually wrong (4 arguments).

Wash, rinse repeat until you have 32 arguments out there. It seems impossible but it really works if you're thinking critically and organizing how your brain works.
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