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re: Liberal and Conservative News Choices
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:04 am to La Place Mike
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:04 am to La Place Mike
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We have a tolerant lefty here
TOLERANCE! That's what I meant to say.
Tolerance is a true liberals M.O.
People who refer to themselves as "liberals" in today's society would have their asses kicked by the liberals of the 60's.
Peace, love and harmony have gone to the wayside for hate speech and rhetoric.
Dare I say liberals today's have reverted to the 60's versions of the KKK?
Hate speech? Check.
Zero tolerance? Check.
Disdain for people who have differing opinions? Double check!
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:04 am to AUbused
I am conservative, but I strictly watch MSNBC for news.
Morning Joe in the morning, and catch a glimpse of maddow, chris whatever his name is, and others at night.
Keeps me sharp when dissecting the liberal mindset and talking points. My friends and peers can't understand why I seek to learn what and why "the other side thinks why they think". I think it makes me more tolerant.
Morning Joe in the morning, and catch a glimpse of maddow, chris whatever his name is, and others at night.
Keeps me sharp when dissecting the liberal mindset and talking points. My friends and peers can't understand why I seek to learn what and why "the other side thinks why they think". I think it makes me more tolerant.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:08 am to gatorrocks
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And there it is folks. This is a REAL liberal. Compassionate and completely logical!
So is this the REAL conservative?
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You spell 'Murica like you take it up the arse, you racist, democrat, cock juggling thundercount.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:10 am to CherryGarciaMan
quote:I don't know about more tolerant. I think you're there already for wanting to watch MSNBC as a conservative. But you watch MSNBC just as I watch Fox News and listen to AM radio on occasion. And post on this board. Unless you're listening to opposing viewpoints and challenging your own, you're really just treading water.
Keeps me sharp when dissecting the liberal mindset and talking points. My friends and peers can't understand why I seek to learn what and why "the other side thinks why they think". I think it makes me more tolerant.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:12 am to Vegas Bengal
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So is this the REAL conservative?
"Sun zhu" and I'm paraphrasing here: "If your enemy is angry, irritate him."
This is merely a response via "The Art Of War".
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:13 am to AUbused
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conservatives seek news which reinforces their previously held belief systems. Liberals look for more moderate options. Not surprising.....especially when viewing it through the lens of the cartoonish conservative characters on the Poli forum.(you know who you are )
been saying this for years. "They know they are right because they only listen to people who tell them they are right"
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:23 am to WeeWee
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Here is just one example of why ppl watch Fox over MSNBC or CNN. During the height of the Russia, Ukraine, Crimea shite show, Fox covered ukraine, domestic shite, and the missing plane. CNN 100% missing plane 24/7 and MSNBC well I can't remember but it was bad.
CNN is facing an identity crisis. With Fox going right and MSNBC going left, they had fallen to 3rd in the key demo group of 25-54. With so many options, normal people only watch cable news when something happens. So they can't find a niche. They've been flailing for some time. That plane reporting debacle is a great example of how desperate they are to find a place for themselves in the market.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:38 am to Vegas Bengal
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CNN is facing an identity crisis
That's the truth.
ALTHOUGH! I really like Anthony Bourdain so I do like that addition.
But again, that's entertainment, not news. Just like the rest of them.
I can't think of one news anchor on any station except Shep Smith. And really the only reason I know him is because he was mentioned as an Ole Miss guy here AND I watched his recent Ebola clip.
Is Wolf Blitzer an anchor our does he inject opinion like the rest? I only watch him on election nights. He seems decent.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:48 am to CherryGarciaMan
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I strictly watch MSNBC for news
Can't do it. I tried to watch them. My migraines started to come back.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 10:49 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:49 am to Vegas Bengal
I personalty like to watch all the news to see what they're all saying. How else can one get all the sides with today's polarized environment? Suppose if you only wanted to listen to views you agree with most you'd read, listen, or watch one source.
Speaking of identity crisis. That's me trying to find a political party to support, but I dislike having to join either party to tell ya the truth. But if one really wants to be involved in our political system, seems you've gotta join either or. I've voted for both Dem and Rep throughout my lifetime, and usually went with the person running themselves, but never followed things to close. That's changing now though with me trying to educate myself on these matters.
Speaking of identity crisis. That's me trying to find a political party to support, but I dislike having to join either party to tell ya the truth. But if one really wants to be involved in our political system, seems you've gotta join either or. I've voted for both Dem and Rep throughout my lifetime, and usually went with the person running themselves, but never followed things to close. That's changing now though with me trying to educate myself on these matters.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:53 am to GoCrazyAuburn
The fact remains that if you are choosing either extreme you are consciously choosing to consume information with more slant than available alternatives. Period.
Thats what I find funny. You'll hear shite like "NPR!!? LOL! Liberal garbage! I watch Fox!"
Mind blowing considering the relative extremity of their respective political slants.
Thats what I find funny. You'll hear shite like "NPR!!? LOL! Liberal garbage! I watch Fox!"
Mind blowing considering the relative extremity of their respective political slants.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:55 am to AUbused
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The fact remains that if you are choosing either extreme you are consciously choosing to consume information with more slant than available alternatives. Period.
Not a single person here has argued otherwise. We have argued, however, that when one side has more available options, it is common sense that they will be spread out across those options. You, for some reason, have laughed at that notion.
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Thats what I find funny. You'll hear shite like "NPR!!? LOL! Liberal garbage! I watch Fox!"
okay? You actually hear this often? Cause I don't.
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Mind blowing considering the relative extremity of their respective political slants
Why?
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:57 am to AUbused
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but unlike liberals, conservatives seek news which reinforces their previously held belief systems
Actually your link could just as easily be interpreted as evidence that Fox News has a more engaging lineup with a wider variety of viewers, and thus isn't overly conservative.
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okay? You actually hear this often? Cause I don't.
I never hear it. I actually listen to NPR in the car and watch Fox at home (if I want to see the news).
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The fact remains that if you are choosing either extreme you are consciously choosing to consume information with more slant than available alternatives. Period.
That is not a fact just because your assumption is that Fox is as far to the right as MSNBC is to the left....which is entirely dependent on your own personal political beliefs. That also doesn't take into account practical, non-political reasons people watch whatever they watch.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 10:59 am to AUbused
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I personalty like to watch all the news to see what they're all saying. How else can one get all the sides with today's polarized environment? S
I am 50/50 conservative talk radio and NPR on my ride in to work. Mornings I work from how I watch Morning Joe and then turn that shitty channel off. Otherwise, I keep an RSS feed with a mix.
In my opinion, about the only way you can come to an approximation of an informed opinion is to listen to how both sides of the media aisle are spinning and then read between the lines. Basically neither side is ever reporting a balanced viewpoint if they are doing anything other than dryly reading the days events.
We have the 24/7 news cycle to thank, but we do have the ability to select to consume broadly and amalgamate. That being said, the reporting from the extreme media outlets is so vapid and brittle that there's really nothing to learn other than how they are forming the political narratives.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:04 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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We have argued, however, that when one side has more available options, it is common sense that they will be spread out across those options. You, for some reason, have laughed at that notion.
Because I don't agree with your assignment of options to one side or the other because my argument is simply that if you are looking for information in its purest form the "moderate" channels are not assignable to a "side" given their relative distance from the extremes.
Basically our disagreement comes down to your perception that the big 3 channels would be 75% left on the political specture of 0-100. I would put them, as stated, 45-55......or, if you prefer, 40-55%. Given that view, in the big picture I dont see them as attributable to either side in a significant way.
ETA: This would mean that your argument, while true as far as distribution given political leaning, would NOT account for the rather sizeable gap between lib and con media consumption in the PEW poll.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:06 am to Vegas Bengal
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I watch Fox News and listen to AM radio on occasion
This is because the personalities you encounter are entertain you. They say something shocking or thought provoking, so you are an engaged member of their audience.
There's a reason those AM programs have such massive audiences. The people who run those shows are very good at grabbing attention.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:08 am to dewster
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That also doesn't take into account practical, non-political reasons people watch whatever they watch.
Like trotting out hot, big breasted women to report the news? Idiocracy anyone? WWE wrestlers coming soon.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:08 am to Vegas Bengal
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Unless you're listening to opposing viewpoints and challenging your own
Don't kid yourself, you're only here to shite on the rug.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:11 am to AUbused
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Like trotting out hot, big breasted women to report the news? Idiocracy anyone? WWE wrestlers coming soon.
Fox News is the most watch cable news network. If you honestly think this is only because of how they frame their political news, you are not being honest with yourself. Your own OP cites proof that they are engaging an audience with a wider variety of political beliefs than MSNBC.
I'm not sure if you've watched Fox at all, but Shepard Smith, Chris Wallace, or Brett Bair don't appear to be big breasted or female.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:12 am
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:16 am to dewster
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I'm not sure if you've watched Fox at all, but Shepard Smith, Chris Wallace, or Brett Bair don't appear to be big breasted or female.
They just always seem to be flanked by one or two.
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