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re: Liberal / Progressive ideas that many of you are accepting without knowing it

Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:34 am to
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8003 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:34 am to
I haven't changed my position one iota:

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- Social Security, Medicare, etc. has to exist in some form


Probably, but scale, scope, funding, and regulation (specifically, SSDI) are what's in question for me, not existence

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- Increased tax revenues to government are a good thing


I think that's ideologically-neutral. I would think conservatives generally believe there is an ideal level for tax generation, but it varies based on conditions.

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- The Federal government must be funded by income taxes


Don't particularly care either way as long as it's funded.

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- We must have 9 justices on the Supreme Court


Didn't even realize this was an issue

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- We must have a minimum wage in the US


Hell no

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- We must have a minimum wage in the US
- US Senators must be elected by popular vote


Strong no. Republicanism (small r) demands a certain ethos of the elites ruling for the betterment of everyone. I agree with that to an extent.

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- Government employees pay taxes to the branch of government they work for


Not even sure what this is saying

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- Public schools are not the same as 'government schools'


I am not too big on the education issue, but I don't see that big of a problem with this.

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- Non-profit groups are more virtuous than for profit organizations


No. Absolutely not. Often times, vociferously no. The strategic incentives for non-profits are no different, and thus, I place them at an ethical level equivalent to most companies.

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- Citizens shoudn't have access to the same weapons as police


I see no problem with this. External military (and the National Guard with the way it has been used post-WW2) forces are another question, but being able to match domestic policing? I think it is ideologically sound to support that.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 2:38 am
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:53 am to
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ad democracy to your list


good one.

Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8533 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:13 am to
frick the following two ideas.
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- We must have a minimum wage in the US


You want a higher wage, then you should have gotten an education or picked a different career. Unions and minimum wage advocates are the reason so many jobs have left the US.
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- Citizens shoudn't have access to the same weapons as police

As far as firearms are concerned, we should definitely have access to the same type of weapons our police departments and military use. The right to bear arms was written in order to keep our government honest of intrusion and overreach.

As far as "technological" weapons, we need to take some of them away from police departments. I completely support the right for police departments to use new weapons that fight crime as long as they make sense. Body cameras and tasers make sense. Traffic enforcement cameras and cellphone stingrays don't.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46074 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:53 am to
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I only like one of those but in an economic sense the minimum wage should reflect the real inflation rate of the country


The minimum wage should be what an employer is willing to pay to fill a position.
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