Lee statue

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Typical neo-reb response.

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traitor against the United States government.

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should we tear down monuments to traitors against their governments?

George Washington perhaps?

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traitor against the United States government.

should we tear down monuments to traitors against their governments?

George Washington perhaps?

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One of the most bizarre factoids about the late unpleasantness is how the sesesh scum tried to appropriate GW for their own ends. His image appears on the great seal of the so-called confederate states.



Right? After all he said:

"In all our deliberations on this subject we kept steadily in our view, that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety, perhaps our national existence. This important consideration, seriously and deeply impressed on our minds, led each state in the Convention to be less rigid on points of inferior magnitude, than might have been otherwise expected; and thus the Constitution, which we now present, is the result of a spirit of amity, and of that mutual deference and concession which the peculiarity of our political situation rendered indispensable."

-- 9/17/87

The slave power trick-fricked the poor white trash soldiers, don't you think?

But to compare their situations.

For GW: "Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends."

- D of I.

For Lee: "Physically speaking, we can not separate. We can not remove our respective sections from each other nor build an impassable wall between them. A husband and wife may be divorced and go out of the presence and beyond the reach of each other, but the different parts of our country can not do this. They can not but remain face to face, and intercourse, either amicable or hostile, must continue between them. Is it possible, then, to make that intercourse more advantageous or more satisfactory after separation than before? Can aliens make treaties easier than friends can make laws? Can treaties be more faithfully enforced between aliens than laws can among friends? Suppose you go to war, you can not fight always; and when, after much loss on both sides and no gain on either, you cease fighting, the identical old questions, as to terms of intercourse, are again upon you."

A Lincoln 3/4/61

Lee wanted a war. There wouldn't have been a war had he stayed loyal. Rhett Butler called it: "The Cause. The Cause of living in the past is dying before our eyes."

Lee couldn't see that and he is no hero.

One of the stories I never ever get tired of telling is how three black men stole a boat and rowed over to the big federal enclave Fortress Monroe right after Virginia passed its secesh documents. The very next day a rebel officer appeared under a flag of truce and demanded that they be returned.

“Under what authority?” the federal commander asked.

“Why, under the Fugitive Slave Act,” the secesh scum replied.

“That no longer applies to you.”

How fricking stupid can you get? The Rebs pissed on the strongest bulwark for Slavery - the federal government.

It sure is some funny shite when a bunch of people living in country founded upon treasonous traitors begin throwing rocks at other people as treasonous traitors for doing the exact same thing in choosing their own self government.

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Resolved, that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved

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That's well received, written by Lee's father, and not treasonous. But when another General Lee aligns himself with an ironically almost identical movement, he's a traitor, and treasonous scum.

How you people live with your own conscience and bullshite is beyond me.

doubtful

but there is a statue of Lenin in the United States

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I don't think there are any George Washington statues in England.

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Yes there is.



George Washington's statue in Trafalgar Square, London.

Whiskey, go blow it out your arse. You either believe in the right to self government, or you do not. You apparently do not, and that's fine, but don't me ever catch you championing the Declaration of Independence because you're full of shite, and do not believe in the ideals therein in the slightest, only in a purely selfish ambitious sense do you believe in those words, most certainly not in principle.