re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial - Day 7

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The Quiet One

Law - logic - common sense - intent = well done sire.

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So…what you are saying is he will not get soros money for political office???

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I find it very hard to believe the defense attorneys wanted Kyle up there

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But they did. From the very beginning of their representation of him. On the Rekieta stream, one of the panelists who drops in and out was actually
Part of the team in the beginning. He said yesterday that one of the big reasons that led him to no longer be on the actual defense team in this trial was that he was strongly opposed to putting Kyle on the stand because it opens them up to too much risk while the rest of the team felt strongly that he should get on the stand and tell his story. He also said that the lack of objection by the defense isn’t some masterful plan to allow the DA to go off the rails in the eyes of the judge and jury. It’s just his courtroom style. He hardly ever objects.

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find it very hard to believe the defense attorneys wanted Kyle up there

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But when Kyle was sworn in and the judge was talking to him and asking questions the attorneys said that his decision to testify was consistent with the advice of his counsel

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Rosenbaum (the Pedophile)
Pedo issues two death threats to Kyle (one could be argued indirect threat, but still).
Kyle never initiates any hostilities with Pedo
Pedo stalks and begins chasing Kyle.
Kyle runs away, Pedo continues pursuit.
Pedo throws something; Kyle turns and points gun at him, doesn’t fire and runs away again.
Pedo continues pursuit, corners and reaches for Kyle’s gun and is shot to death.

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You left out the inciting incident:

Zaminkski and his scumbag wife were blocking Kyle from running back across the street after he extinguished the car fire.

Zaminski drew his pistol on Kyle BEFORE rosenbaum could see what was going on

Zaminski yelled at rosenbaum as he was emerging from hiding behind the car to "get him kill his arse" which then gave rosenbaum a target.

Zaminski fired his pistol behind Kyle as he was about to be caught by rosenbaum.

Then he slunk away into the crowd; the match lit.

IMO everything that happened that night is because of him.

Roaenbaum was like an ADHD monkey and probably wouldn't have put 2 and 2 together to chase Kyle if someone hadn't pointed to Kyle and said KILL HIM


Oh and the ADA didn't get his pistol so we honestly have no idea how many shots he fired. Certainly there were way more shots than Kyle..what about those 4 shots you hear AFTER gross goes down?

Was zaminski in that area? Very possibly. Was he a terrible shot? Maybe. I really can't believe they didn't investigate those additional shots fired.

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Because the deceased was not a rationale person. Despite Kyle being armed he did not judge him to be a threat.

He judged incorrectly.

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Natural selection at work.

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Always keep in mind in these trials… the defendant HAS committed murder. There is zero doubt of that.


The word is homicide. Murder is about intent. All murders are homicides. Not all homicides are murders.

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Fair enough on the wording. I ran with OPs wording in my haste and I'm generally way more specific than that.

The point I was making is that Kyle did kill someone, two in fact. That will ALWAYS be reviewed and THEN a determination is made if the state thinks it was justifiable or not. And THEN if the state determines it was not, you will have to defend yourself in court that it was. (or in the case of wisconsin, they have to prove it was not justifiable).

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The point I was making is that Kyle did kill someone, two in fact.

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don't forget

- accepted responsibility IMMEDIATELY and even attempted to render aid to rosenbaum before the mob forced him to run
- tried to turn himself into police and got pepper sprayed
- turned himself in at the first opportunity and told the police what he did
- never lied as far as i can tell about anything that happened.

in other words, the mob is after him because he acted like a responsible adult and accepted responsibility for his role in everything that happened that night.

Usually starts around 9:00 AM.

No. Judge specifically said yesterday that the trial will start at 9am today.

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The point I was making is that Kyle did kill someone, two in fact. That will ALWAYS be reviewed and THEN a determination is made if the state thinks it was justifiable or not. And THEN if the state determines it was not, you will have to defend yourself in court


Except none of that happen here - fact

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Uh, we're having a trial, so all of that did happen here - fact