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re: Keystone=TransCanada seizing property rights of U.S. citizens against their will
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:46 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:46 pm to SpidermanTUba
I am opposed to people having their property taken away.
I would have to be convinced that it was critical to our well being to support this.
I am not convinced.
It may be a good idea to run such a pipeline, but not if it requires the taking of private property.
I would have to be convinced that it was critical to our well being to support this.
I am not convinced.
It may be a good idea to run such a pipeline, but not if it requires the taking of private property.
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:50 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Do Keystone Pipeline supporters also support Canadians seizing Americans' land?
Are they going to "seize" the land or buy the land. And soince when do you libs care about American's and their property?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:53 pm to memphis tiger
Why ate you making this a liberal/republican issue? You do realize that most Americans, regardless of political affiliation, are against the idea of forced cessation of property.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:54 pm to GumboPot
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They are seeking lease agreements with the landowners.
Some carjackers ask you to just get out. At some point, a gun will be pointed at you.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:56 pm to FalseProphet
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Why ate you making this a liberal/republican issue? You do realize that most Americans, regardless of political affiliation, are against the idea of forced cessation of property.
becaus ehte idiot in the OP made about consevatives and tea Party members. And most leftists are against "their" proerty being taken. they dont give a shite if yours or mine is taken.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:57 pm to UncleFestersLegs
quote:I never heard a carjacker offer anyone money to borrow their vehicle.
Some carjackers ask you to just get out. At some point, a gun will be pointed at you
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:59 pm to dante
So if he offers you money, you are required to let him do it whether you want someone else to drive your car or not?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:02 pm to dante
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I never heard a carjacker offer anyone money to borrow their vehicle.
Just compensation is that which has been voluntarily agreed upon by both parties to a transaction.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:03 pm to FalseProphet
quote:No, I was replying to his absurd statement with another absurd statement. His comparison is not like the other.
So if he offers you money, you are required to let him do it whether you want someone else to drive your car or not?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:04 pm to FalseProphet
such a stupid comparison. It would be like someone having the cure for aids and saying he's not giving it to anyone no matter what. At some point others are compelled to action for their own survival.
We need ED rules to balance societies benefit with a persons ownership rights to hold things together. IMO.
ETA: damn didn't intend to further this "spam" thread...
We need ED rules to balance societies benefit with a persons ownership rights to hold things together. IMO.
ETA: damn didn't intend to further this "spam" thread...
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:06 pm to C
I agree it's an absurd comparison, but I was responding to another posters jackass response to it.
Look, if I don't want a private company's pipeline running through my property, I should be able to stop it.
Look, if I don't want a private company's pipeline running through my property, I should be able to stop it.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:07 pm to C
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We need ED rules to balance societies benefit with a persons ownership rights to hold things together. IMO.
Society does not exist as an entity. Ownership of property eventually falls not on everyone but to the state or those individuals the state favors.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:07 pm to FalseProphet
What if a crazy rich ex girlfriend bought all the property around your house and told you you could never trespass? would that be fair?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:09 pm to FalseProphet
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Look, if I don't want a private company's pipeline running through my property, I should be able to stop it.
Theft is theft whether its for a pipeline or a public library.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:11 pm to C
What is the government forcing me to do in that scenario? What is te government forcing her to do?
ETA: you also had a shitty closing attorney who didn't secure you a right of ingress/egress in that scenario.
ETA: you also had a shitty closing attorney who didn't secure you a right of ingress/egress in that scenario.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:12 pm to UncleFestersLegs
Right but some theft is legal and some isn't. Hell suing someone for damages is theft.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:12 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Keystone=TransCanada seizing property rights of U.S. citizens against their will
Tuba=vigilant watchdog/alarm-sounder for property rights
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:13 pm to FalseProphet
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What is the government forcing me to do in that scenario? What is te government forcing her to do?
Nothing at the moment. You're either stuck in or out of your property and you're only recourse is to break the law.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:14 pm to C
See my edit above. It could have and should have been resolved prior to that point. That's a private negotiation involving no government intervention.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 2:14 pm to C
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Right but some theft is legal and some isn't
I just wish I could get this conversation on taxation. Because If I really own my paycheck nobody else should be able to take some of it.
Otherwise you have to admit I don't own anything.
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