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Just for the sake of argument..... possible to take out Kim and...if it is, implications?

Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:18 pm
I mean, is it even feasible for a team to get in their and take him and his circle out?

But, really, the question is, even if we did, what effect would that have?

Would they fall into disarray?

Would the next in line be happy?

Would the next in line simply launch nukes cause they are mirror images of Kim?

This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:21 pm to
Why send in a team when you know exactly where he is? Drone the dumb bastard. The implications would probably be serious. No one would miss him, but ordering the assassination of a country's leader is a serious thing to do. Even if he is a dick.
Posted by notsince98
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:22 pm to
I'd rather just ignore them. Stop talking about them. Stop worrying about them. Just leave the area completely.

If they fire a live missile at anyone, then go scorched earth. Until then, NK has every right to develop their nukes and missile programs.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:25 pm to
I'm sure you'd be thinking the same thing if their first missile landed on your family too, huh?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:26 pm to
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I'd rather just ignore them. Stop talking about them. Stop worrying about them. Just leave the area completely.

Call me a crazy humanitarian, but, I kind of think the rest of the world looking on as an evil person conducts a mass psychological experiment on 25 million people is sort of a bad thing.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:27 pm to
The next family member in line would take over. If we took out his whole family, the generals would fight over who controls the country. It would still be a totalitarian dictatorship. That's all some countries understand and why regime change only tends to make things worse.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
1963 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:28 pm to
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NK has every right to develop their nukes and missile programs


Let's say you are in a room with another dude and he says he wants to kill you. There is a gun on the table and you have a gun. Do you let him pick that gun up?
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:29 pm to
His generals may go suicide or be freed from the tyrant, who knows. That's why this situation is so tense.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

I'd rather just ignore them. Stop talking about them. Stop worrying about them. Just leave the area completely.

If they fire a live missile at anyone, then go scorched earth. Until then, NK has every right to develop their nukes and missile programs.


I'm so glad people like you are not in charge.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:30 pm to
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I'm sure you'd be thinking the same thing if their first missile landed on your family too, huh?


This is such a bullshite response. Just because you fear someone doesn't give you a right to take them out. There needs to be a clear and PRESENT danger to justify such an act.

Sorry, but I'm not just going to believe the media got it right that 1) NK has working nuke warheads & 2) they would really launch them insuring their own destruction in the process.

History has made it clear. All this racket from NK is to get foreign countries to pickup the tab of taking care of NK citizens since the dictator prefers to spend on the military rather than taking care of the people.

if nobody listened, cared or responded to NK they would have nothing to gain from all this saber rattling. There is a realistic chance they'd stop.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Call me a crazy humanitarian, but, I kind of think the rest of the world looking on as an evil person conducts a mass psychological experiment on 25 million people is sort of a bad thing.
its been going on for decades now, what's a few more years?!?


I'm tired of the saber rattling, personally
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:33 pm to
I mean, is it even feasible for a team to get in their and take him and his circle out?

No, needs to be done by Generals / Junta

But, really, the question is, even if we did, what effect would that have?

The question is does Kim run the Junta or does the Junta run Kim? Also, would Junta give up the nuclear program and the answer is NO!!!

Would they fall into disarray?

I doubt this because they have such a strangle hold over the people there it's scary. Who would take over I guess is the logical question?

Would the next in line be happy?

More like Paranoid, Scared and Stupid all come to mind

Would the next in line simply launch nukes cause they are mirror images of Kim?

I imagine back channeling to China would be the best way to communicate your intentions. I don't think they actually believe they can win this war.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17988 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Let's say you are in a room with another dude and he says he wants to kill you. There is a gun on the table and you have a gun. Do you let him pick that gun up?


Terrible analogy.

If you want a correct one, i'm locked in a room with a guy and we both have guns. he says he wants to kill me. At what point do I use mine? At the very least I wouldn't consider it until the gun was pointed at me as I see it with my own two eyes.

If we want to get an even more accurate scenario, you take the guy who wants to kill me with his gun and put him on one side of a soundproof curtain such that I cannot see or hear him directly. Put me on the other side. Now put a media outlet in the middle and have them tell me what the guy on the other side is doing. In this situation, do I blindly believe the media person telling me a guy on other side wants to kill me and is ready to shoot when I cannot verify the guy even has a gun?
Posted by MButterfly
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Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

possible to take out Kim and...if it is, implications?


Not without a huge global consent. The truth that nobody wants to hear is the only ways to solve this is

1- all out war before he attaches nukes to the missiles. After that, it's a stalemate.

2- the nukes accidentally explode for some unknown reason killing all their critical scientists.


Those are your options.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Would the next in line simply launch nukes cause they are mirror images of Kim?





Yes.


Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4584 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:36 pm to
Well, we now know who would be dead in your scenario. You, pussy.

Kill or be killed is the motto.
Posted by MButterfly
Quantico
Member since Oct 2015
6860 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

At what point do I use mine? At the very least I wouldn't consider it until the gun was pointed at me as I see it with my own two eyes.


What if the guy is shooting at you, but missing and he puts down that gun and goes picks up a machine gun or a shotgun.

That is the issue. He is already firing missiles at people. Ask Japan.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
1963 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Terrible analogy. If you want a correct one, i'm locked in a room with a guy and we both have guns


You're right. The guy you are in the room with is now popping off practice rounds...
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:41 pm to
I'm sure there are contingencies in place in case something like this happens that would unleash hell on SK, including a possible nuclear strike.

The only way for anything remotely like this to be successful would be a China-backed coup that would overturn all of the upper-echelon military leaders (or have their backing), and in which the soldiers would be informed and acquiesce.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17988 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

That is the issue. He is already firing missiles at people. Ask Japan.


Incorrect. At this point NK has yet to fire a missile at anyone. All they have done to this point is test fire missiles THE EXACT SAME AS WE DO.

If a guy fired a bullet at me and missed, I'd take him out. This is exactly as I said earlier. If NK launches a "live," as in actively armed, missile at someone then you go scorched earth on them.

Until then, as a sovereign country they have every right to develop their own defense capabilities and having nukes as a deterrent is very much a defense mechanism.

everyone and every country has a right to defend themselves.
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