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Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:53 am to Mike da Tigah
Christ's compassion was not just for those who believed. In the Bible those that said they "believed" were sometimes those who rejected him the most.
Don't act like Jesus and his disciples were some sort of all star preaching conglomerate. They were country boys, fishermen from small towns ( most of them) the majority were Galileans like himself who were dismissed, shunned and disliked by their Jewish brothers as a whole. Jesus being from Nazareth was looked down on. There was country and then there was Nazareth
Jesus recognized that for his word to resonate, he could not be overly picky, he had to stress that the message was for all.....something that Paul had to remind the apostles like James and Peter. The idolator was just as worthy of delivering the word to as was a Jew.
Don't act like Jesus and his disciples were some sort of all star preaching conglomerate. They were country boys, fishermen from small towns ( most of them) the majority were Galileans like himself who were dismissed, shunned and disliked by their Jewish brothers as a whole. Jesus being from Nazareth was looked down on. There was country and then there was Nazareth
Jesus recognized that for his word to resonate, he could not be overly picky, he had to stress that the message was for all.....something that Paul had to remind the apostles like James and Peter. The idolator was just as worthy of delivering the word to as was a Jew.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 11:55 am
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:53 am to Powerman
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Certainly not in the United States.
He clearly stated "world"
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:56 am to Powerman
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Certainly not in the United States
Point us to another group of people who one could publicly mock with equal venom and not be cancelled.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:57 am to Bayou
We need to start defending ourselves, and we have to push a selfish agenda, if we’re going to save this country.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:11 pm to KiwiHead
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Christ's compassion was not just for those who believed. In the Bible those that said they "believed" were sometimes those who rejected him the most.
Don't act like Jesus and his disciples were some sort of all star preaching conglomerate. They were country boys, fishermen from small towns ( most of them) the majority were Galileans like himself who were dismissed, shunned and disliked by their Jewish brothers as a whole. Jesus being from Nazareth was looked down on. There was country and then there was Nazareth
Jesus recognized that for his word to resonate, he could not be overly picky, he had to stress that the message was for all.....something that Paul had to remind the apostles like James and Peter. The idolator was just as worthy of delivering the word to as was a Jew.
I honestly do not know what you are even referencing here.
We are talking about the biblical purpose of washing feet here, and there is only one truth, and that’s what scripture tells us, and it tells us plainly that it is a sign of spiritual cleaning in both the manner in which Christ washed the feet of the disciples, and in the manner in which Mary washed Christ’s feet in appreciation of forgiveness of her many sins.
An unrepentant sinner who rejects Christ is not a candidate for this because he’s already rejected Christ and what Christ offers, the remission of sins through HIM. It’s not some kind deed Christ did for His disciples. It has spiritual meaning, the likes of which is not defined in that advertisement.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:35 pm to ctiger69
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Christian’s are the most persecuted group of people in the entire world
dafuk
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:43 pm to Undertow
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you’re a buffoon
Another very Christian comment.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:58 pm to ctiger69
To whoever dreamed up the "Jesus didn't teach hate, Jesus came to wash feet" commercial on the Super Bowl, let me just say that was perfect example of how "one verse theology" can totally twist the meaning of scripture in pursuit of one's own objectives.
Who are you talking to? It seemed to be pointed at Christians specifically as if it's the Christians who are full of hate and who need to be reminded of who Jesus was. If we want to be real about things, Jesus's earthly ministry never told people to be accepting of sinful behavior or lifestyles. Jesus, as part of the triune godhead, is, was, and always will be the same God as the God of the Old Testament. The same God that destroyed entire populations who were wicked, sinful, and deserving of judgment. Jesus didn’t come to change or undo any of that. Anyone with a reasonable amount of knowledge and understanding of the Bible would know and understand that. But again, using one verse theology, all too often people like to paint Jesus as a pacifist liberal hippy type, when in reality, time and time again, he proved with his own words and actions to be the opposite of that. “Do not think I have come to bring peace to earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword” (Mathew 10:34). This wasn’t to say his people were tasked with starting wars in his name. It was rather the fact that those who would not go along with a sinful society and follow his word instead would find themselves at odds with that society and with the people who chose to take sides with that society. Jesus didn’t come to be accepting of sinful lifestyles. He came to fulfill God’s covenant and to pave the way for salvation for all who accept him, regardless of their sin, and repent from their sins. He also talked very seriously about how hard it would be for some on judgment day, even though they conveniently leave those parts out.
Back to the main point--I think the intent was to wag a finger at Christians who do not want their children sexualized, mutilated, aborted, or indoctrinated, or who stand against the myriad other serious socially driven evils in our world today and somehow paint them as the haters for not wanting to go along with it.
Let me remind you, it’s not the Christians (actual followers of Christ, not governments under that banner) who are committing acts of hatred and violence against those with whom they disagree. It is those who disagree with the teachings of Jesus who are actively persecuting and committing acts of hatred and violence against his followers. Trying to spread the actual word of God and not just some socially acceptable version of it and trying to get people to leave their sinful ways behind is not hate. It’s the ultimate form of love, and it’s the harder path to take. It’s easy to just look the other way and pretend things aren’t happening…to go along to get along. It’s much harder to tell people the truth when they need to hear it. Speaking the truth today is labeled as hate, and spewing hate against those who speak the truth is somehow considered righteous behavior for the new religion of wokeness.
So, wag that finger elsewhere. You can’t take the lesson Jesus taught to his disciples about acts of service for your brethren and use it to whitewash the atrocities going on in our world today. At least not with any honesty or pure intentions.
Who are you talking to? It seemed to be pointed at Christians specifically as if it's the Christians who are full of hate and who need to be reminded of who Jesus was. If we want to be real about things, Jesus's earthly ministry never told people to be accepting of sinful behavior or lifestyles. Jesus, as part of the triune godhead, is, was, and always will be the same God as the God of the Old Testament. The same God that destroyed entire populations who were wicked, sinful, and deserving of judgment. Jesus didn’t come to change or undo any of that. Anyone with a reasonable amount of knowledge and understanding of the Bible would know and understand that. But again, using one verse theology, all too often people like to paint Jesus as a pacifist liberal hippy type, when in reality, time and time again, he proved with his own words and actions to be the opposite of that. “Do not think I have come to bring peace to earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword” (Mathew 10:34). This wasn’t to say his people were tasked with starting wars in his name. It was rather the fact that those who would not go along with a sinful society and follow his word instead would find themselves at odds with that society and with the people who chose to take sides with that society. Jesus didn’t come to be accepting of sinful lifestyles. He came to fulfill God’s covenant and to pave the way for salvation for all who accept him, regardless of their sin, and repent from their sins. He also talked very seriously about how hard it would be for some on judgment day, even though they conveniently leave those parts out.
Back to the main point--I think the intent was to wag a finger at Christians who do not want their children sexualized, mutilated, aborted, or indoctrinated, or who stand against the myriad other serious socially driven evils in our world today and somehow paint them as the haters for not wanting to go along with it.
Let me remind you, it’s not the Christians (actual followers of Christ, not governments under that banner) who are committing acts of hatred and violence against those with whom they disagree. It is those who disagree with the teachings of Jesus who are actively persecuting and committing acts of hatred and violence against his followers. Trying to spread the actual word of God and not just some socially acceptable version of it and trying to get people to leave their sinful ways behind is not hate. It’s the ultimate form of love, and it’s the harder path to take. It’s easy to just look the other way and pretend things aren’t happening…to go along to get along. It’s much harder to tell people the truth when they need to hear it. Speaking the truth today is labeled as hate, and spewing hate against those who speak the truth is somehow considered righteous behavior for the new religion of wokeness.
So, wag that finger elsewhere. You can’t take the lesson Jesus taught to his disciples about acts of service for your brethren and use it to whitewash the atrocities going on in our world today. At least not with any honesty or pure intentions.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:06 pm to oogabooga68
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Point us to another group of people who one could publicly mock with equal venom and not be cancelled.
If you think that pro Christian super bowl commercials is somehow "publicly mocking" Christians then you've lost all hope.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:15 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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It seemed to be pointed at Christians specifically as if it's the Christians who are full of hate and who need to be reminded of who Jesus was. If we want to be real about things, Jesus's earthly ministry never told people to be accepting of sinful behavior or lifestyles. Jesus, as part of the triune godhead, is, was, and always will be the same God as the God of the Old Testament. The same God that destroyed entire populations who were wicked, sinful, and deserving of judgment. Jesus didn’t come to change or undo any of that. Anyone with a reasonable amount of knowledge and understanding of the Bible would know and understand that. But again, using one verse theology, all too often people like to paint Jesus as a pacifist liberal hippy type, when in reality, time and time again, he proved with his own words and actions to be the opposite of that. “Do not think I have come to bring peace to earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword” (Mathew 10:34). This wasn’t to say his people were tasked with starting wars in his name. It was rather the fact that those who would not go along with a sinful society and follow his word instead would find themselves at odds with that society and with the people who chose to take sides with that society. Jesus didn’t come to be accepting of sinful lifestyles. He came to fulfill God’s covenant and to pave the way for salvation for all who accept him, regardless of their sin, and repent from their sins. He also talked very seriously about how hard it would be for some on judgment day, even though they conveniently leave those parts out.
This all seems reasonable
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I think the intent was to wag a finger at Christians who do not want their children sexualized, mutilated, aborted, or indoctrinated, or who stand against the myriad other serious socially driven evils in our world today and somehow paint them as the haters for not wanting to go along with it.
This does not
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:25 pm to Powerman
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Certainly not in the United States
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Point us to another group of people who one could publicly mock with equal venom and not be cancelled.
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If you think that pro Christian super bowl commercials is somehow "publicly mocking" Christians then you've lost all hope.
We had moved on from the commercial and were talking about generally acceptable anti-Christians sentiment and persecution at the time of that statement.
Try and keep up.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:40 pm to Mike da Tigah
Humility. Washing the feet was a sign of humility. Christ was humble, he saw the sinner as well as the righteous as worthy of respect . It was because he came from humble origin, Nazareth was as humble a place as there could be.
But you are bitching about the add and suggesting that the people at He Gets Us are about giving absolution to unrepentant sinners.....I 'm not seeing that at all. The message is that Jesus is humble enough to show you respect....and he was. Jesus washed the feet of his apostles who were flawed men . Are you suggesting that the Hobby Lobby guys are new age Christian? They are not. Serious Christians, they are though.
Stop telling people they have to come to Christ. Christ would go to people to offer the gift. The gift is available to all
But you are bitching about the add and suggesting that the people at He Gets Us are about giving absolution to unrepentant sinners.....I 'm not seeing that at all. The message is that Jesus is humble enough to show you respect....and he was. Jesus washed the feet of his apostles who were flawed men . Are you suggesting that the Hobby Lobby guys are new age Christian? They are not. Serious Christians, they are though.
Stop telling people they have to come to Christ. Christ would go to people to offer the gift. The gift is available to all
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:40 pm to ctiger69
Why do the foot washers have their shoes off? 
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:57 pm to oogabooga68
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We had moved on from the commercial and were talking about generally acceptable anti-Christians sentiment and persecution at the time of that statement.
Try and keep up.
Sorry for not reading the whole thread of incessant whining
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:59 pm to White Bear
The idea is that you return the kindness
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:06 pm to Dirk Dawgler
No doubt in some places Christians are persecuted.Pakistan and Afghanistan come to mind as well as the Sudan. But in the West and in particular the US the only problems Christians have is when a certain segment bitches about not getting their way.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:56 pm to Powerman
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Sorry for not reading the whole thread of incessant whining
Thanks for finally admitting to everyone that you make stupid comments without fully informing yourself of the subject at hand...
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:58 pm to kmdawg17
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I can assure you that you and Jesus differ in many more ways than just this...
Most certainly, that is gospel. I'm far from perfect, but really don't need anyone to point that out.
Appreciate the input though.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 3:05 pm to ctiger69
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Jesus Gets Us commercial was mocking Jesus
Its very interesting how in their "Jesus loves us all" ads. They leave out the part where Jesus kicked some serious arse when cleaning out the temple
Twice
Oh, and the great flood
The creator doesnt love sinful people near as much as we give him credit for
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