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re: I’ve lost faith in the intelligence of this country

Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8953 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:38 pm to
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You realize trump added trillions himself to the nations debt while in office and failed to secure the Mexican border despite having a Republican majority in Congress right?


Did he not get the wall started in the worse parts?

The border has always been somewhat of an issue. But nothing like it has since Biden took over and started signing executive orders. Why was it not an issue under Trump, but as soon as Biden took over it’s a complete invasion? He caused this.
If you voted for Biden, you voted for this.

And then he put Kamala in charge to do something about it lol? That’s like asking a rock to fix the problem.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1237 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:42 pm to
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utilitarian logic


How is Jeffrey dahmers motive UTILITARIAN logic? It’s not Sherlock. Utilitarian means : the greatest good for the greatest number.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124148 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:45 pm to
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That’s why I say it was a dumb arse decision to stamp out French in the first place.
Would you prefer your American kids be literate in French, or English? In that timeframe, Atchafalaya kids would grow up English illiterate if not for the school pressure. Their Creole French speaking households were not bilingual.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 9:46 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40180 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:47 pm to
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No permit for concealed carry so 18 years can carry guns in the French quarter.


1. Don’t you have to be 21 to own a handgun?

2. Why are you worried about law abiding citizens carrying guns?

3. When did criminals pay attention to what the law says?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64446 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:47 pm to
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You seem pretty stupid


Sums it up.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33216 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:50 pm to
Cry more
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124148 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Utilitarian means : the greatest good for the greatest number.

No dummy, utilitarian does not mean "the greatest good for the greatest number."

Utilitarian means designed to be useful or practical rather than attractive.

You were trying for Utilitarianism.

You learned something.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 9:55 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6540 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:51 pm to
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hundred thousands of private and public dollars are being paid to French teachers in Louisiana to teach students French


So, you're bitching about saving money? You know, for your DEI programs that need to be funded, along with midnight basketball and Latoya's love nest?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46248 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:53 pm to
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Downvote if you agree.



I down vote because the OP is lame.
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1237 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:56 pm to
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Did he not get the wall started in the worse parts?


Is that what you told your teacher when didn’t finish your homework (campaign promises)?

“Well I didn’t secure the border, but I started it..even though I had a Republican majority in Congress” I started it, so can I still get full credit? I started on the hardest math problem first.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 12:28 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45018 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:56 pm to
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Downvote if you agree.



Anyone who puts this at the end of a post is admitting that they know they're a retard.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:58 pm to
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There's a huge majority of retards here on this website.



Yeah, well I never see you beating them in debates. And I do see your posts.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:59 pm to
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Mexicans aren’t taking away the reproduction rights of legal tax paying Americans, it’s inbreed dipshit Americans which nothing better to do with their time I guess .



Oh, you are a baby killer.


I know now to just ignore anything you say.


Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41722 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:02 pm to
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We don’t give a flip about “morality” that’s just subjective BS. we want logic. Just plain utilitarian logic. No more , no less.
It sounds like you haven't given serious thought to your stated position.

There are moral ramifications to our actions, whether you want to accept them or not, and your standard of "utilitarian logic" is arbitrarily chosen because, it seems, you don't want to face the reality of morality.

It all starts with a standard. What standard should we use to judge actions as moral or immoral, or right or wrong? That which deviates from the standard of behavior is by default considered "immoral", so that's why we have to start with the standard.

You seem to have landed on "utilitarian logic" as your chosen standard for morality, but, as I already said, I don't think you've thought that through. First of all, why "utilitarian logic" rather than "utilitarian emotion" or "utilitarian preference"? Second, why "utilitarian logic"? Why utility, and util for whom? For all? For a super majority? For a simple majority? For "the most possible"? If so, why that instead of some other amount? I think when you exam these foundational questions you'll find that you've landed on a completely arbitrary standard.

Second, I'd urge you to consider what actions have already occurred or at least have been expressed as desirable in the name of "utilitarian logic". If we begin with a stated goal of perpetuating the human race, then there are several "utilitarian logic[al" ways to accomplish that goal, including the forced euthanization of certain societal "undesirables", such as the mentally challenged or physically handicapped. That's already happening in certain parts of the world, but why not everywhere? Why not determine as a society that certain minority groups are a detriment to the thriving of that society and agree that those who do not provide a certain positive utility should be killed off? This is essentially what Adolf Hitler was going for, so why not head in that direction in the name of "utilitarian logic"?

What you can't escape is the arbitrary and thus irrational nature of your moral standard, and you cannot act consistently within it. If we took "utilitarian logic" to its logical conclusion, you could justify all sorts of atrocities without even having a rational basis for objective moral reasoning. It all boils down to your own opinion or preference.
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1237 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:10 pm to
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Oh, you are a baby killer.


No I’m not . I’m pro choice . I’m not a woman or the father to be or a doctor . It’s got nothing to do with me .

How am I a baby killer for admitting I should have nothing to say on what a random woman does with her reproductive system?

That’s like a calling a woman a baby killer because she supports the right for men she doesn’t know to have a vasectomy.

This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72901 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:17 pm to
GOPe did not gAF about the wall and fought trump on it. OP is a dumnbfrick
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24648 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:18 pm to
I don’t agree and I’m downvoting because you’re a fricking idiot
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1237 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:19 pm to
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1. Don’t you have to be 21 to own a handgun?


No it’s 18. Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by Bison
Truth or Consequences
Member since Dec 2016
1237 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:24 pm to
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GOPe did not gAF about the wall and fought trump on it.


How’s that my fault fat bastard? I didn’t vote for them. I just pointed out the fact trump sucks at working with others even his own party and is an ineffective leader.

I guess it’s just easier for you to just blame everything on me instead of getting to the root of the problem, makes sense. “Bison’s the reason trump couldn’t secure the border.”
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4148 posts
Posted on 3/5/24 at 10:30 pm to
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Upvoted.


But he said to downvote if you agree.
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