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It's times like these that you know Rand Paul isn't presidential material
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:04 am
His stateside ideas are wonderful, the best!!! Internationally the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans are just not big enough buffers to warrant isolationism like it could 200 years ago.
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:05 am to rebeloke
Not getting mixed up in Syria =/= isolationism
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:05 am to rebeloke
Indeed. It's his foreign policies that make him not fit for the presidency, especially since that's one of the most important duties of the job.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:06 am to Midget Death Squad
Like it or not the POTUS is the leader of the free world.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:07 am to rebeloke
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His stateside ideas are wonderful, the best!!! Internationally the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans are just not big enough buffers to warrant isolationism like it could 200 years ago.
Yeah, Paul is crazy for thinking Bashar al-Assad's regime isn't going to come across the Atlantic and pose an existential threat to the U.S. He's such a kook!
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:07 am to rebeloke
I'm so torn. I used to be anti interventionalist, and then I read book by some neoconservative (the name escapes me) that made a pretty compelling argument for the United States being the force for good in the world and setting an example to other nations what our system of government and free enterprise can accomplish.
I guess the ME stuff always makes me think that it's more about oil than it is about human rights.
I guess the ME stuff always makes me think that it's more about oil than it is about human rights.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:08 am to rebeloke
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Like it or not I think the POTUS is the police chief of the entire world.
FIFY
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:08 am to rebeloke
Yeah, we need more GW Bush types. I think regime change would definitely work this time around!
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:09 am to rebeloke
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Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....
John Q. Adams on America's role in the world. Why do we have to bleed for the rest of the world?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:09 am to ChewyDante
Where do you think ISIS spawns? One of the main reasons we don't have more attacks on US soil is because we took the fight to them.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:09 am to rebeloke
[The Congress shall have Power...] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
What about this do you not understand?
What about this do you not understand?
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:11 am to ChewyDante
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Yeah, Paul is crazy for thinking Bashar al-Assad's regime isn't going to come across the Atlantic and pose an existential threat to the U.S. He's such a kook!
It's more complex than that. Nk wasn't an existential threat, but we waged war there throughout the 50's. How about Vietnam? We even turned a blind eye to Hitler for many years because he was a buffer between european allies and the Soviet union.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:11 am to rpr4695
Under the War Powers Act, the president has 90 days after introducing troops into hostilities to obtain congressional approval of that action.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:13 am to CorporateTiger
quote:More importantly, non-interventionism =/= isolationism
Not getting mixed up in Syria =/= isolationism
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:14 am to Midget Death Squad
quote:I know, right? He'd have this country worrying about its own problems rather than policing the world. What a piece of shite.
Indeed. It's his foreign policies that make him not fit for the presidency, especially since that's one of the most important duties of the job.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:14 am to buckeye_vol
Well not getting [further] entangled in this clusterfrick would have been non-interventionism.
Now all of a sudden some of this board is down for a full occupation.
Now all of a sudden some of this board is down for a full occupation.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:14 am to rebeloke
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Where do you think ISIS spawns? One of the main reasons we don't have more attacks on US soil is because we took the fight to them.
Tell me where in my post you saw me suggest that we shouldn't be attacking ISIS or that I don't view ISIS as a direct threat to the U.S. Also, tell me how bombing Assad helps protect us from ISIS or helps to defeat ISIS.
Strawman arguments are not of much value outside of rhetorical purposes.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:15 am to TX Tiger
Yeah cause the worlds terrorism problem has no relevance to the US...
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:16 am to Vacherie Saint
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It's more complex than that. Nk wasn't an existential threat, but we waged war there throughout the 50's. How about Vietnam? We even turned a blind eye to Hitler for many years because he was a buffer between european allies and the Soviet union
You've made absolutely no argument in support of attacking Assad to preserve vital U.S. interests in spite of your efforts to reference proxy wars from the Cold War and WWII.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:16 am to rebeloke
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It's times like these that you know Rand Paul isn't presidential material
you mean it isn't the fact that he ran in 2016 didn't win a single primary and dropped out February 3rd?
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