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It's now Trump's baby: the new left wing narrative

Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112456 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:23 am
CNN

OK, the Dems won. We have Obamacare till further notice. Obamacare didn't get a single GOP vote when passed. So, if Obamacare goes kaput it's the Dem's fault, right?
Wrong. Trump is the President now. If Obamacare fails during his term then it's his responsibility for the failure because he can save it. If he fails to save it then the fault is all on him and the GOP.

If, OTOH, Trump and the GOP fix the problems and Obamacare doesn't collapse then it's a testament to the genius of the Dems and Obama for creating such a wonderful health care system.

This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:25 am to
You can't possibly think that the left will take any responsibility for their actions much less their failures?

Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:26 am to
They created the mess. It's still their mess. But the GOP promised for seven years to repeal and replace Obamacare and that's why I'll be working to make sure people like Mo Brooks get challenged in the primary.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:28 am to
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If, OTOH, Trump and the GOP fix the problems


I think that bill that passed the House yesterday that they've been working on, and promising, for 7 years should be a great start.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:29 am to
quote:

You can't possibly think that the left will take any responsibility for their actions much less their failures?


Like yesterday in the Rpeublican Party?

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:30 am to
No. we own that debacle.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:32 am to
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No. we own that debacle.


Then why did trump immediately blame the democrats?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:32 am to
Zero votes?
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:33 am to
quote:

No. we own that debacle.


Not much ownership being displayed yesterday or this morning. It's called hypocrisy.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:33 am to
You pretty much summed up the entire history of the Democrat party...

Look at our history. Look at some of the worst things that have happened in the US and what party was responsible. Look at what party ended up getting the blame for it. Look at how history has been rewritten. This will be no different.

And I say this as someone who was a firm Dem voter for 15 years.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:33 am to
Why would a democrat vote for that bill? Reports suggest that the white house didn't even try to reach out to democrats for votes.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:34 am to
In fairness, Democrats have publicly been worried about them being able to pass a repeal at least through the House so they unintentionally deceived Trump by making him think the Republicans knew what they were doing.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4720 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:34 am to
It will happen this way. Won't be long till we start seeing trump care being branded in the media.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Trump is the President now. If Obamacare fails during his term then it's his responsibility for the failure because he can save it. If he fails to save it then the fault is all on him and the GOP.

The only place that narrative works is in CNN's greenroom or on the View.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98705 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:41 am to
They are stupid.

The failure of the bill means the status quo remains - i.e., Obamacare. So, Donald Trump owns their frick up because he was unsuccessful in trying to fix it?

That's like saying Ford isn't responsible for making the Pinto because the local mechanic couldn't make it anything other than a Pinto.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23060 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:41 am to
i just read this article - how in the tank is CNN that they run articles about how great Obamacare is before the bill is pulled but then one that hones in on all its flaws and how unsustainable it is immediately after?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:42 am to
They don't own the failure of the ACA, they own the specific failure of failing to repeal the ACA (or making the Democrats look like obstructionists in the process of trying).

This doesn't impact liberal voters, but you can be damn sure GOP voters will be demotivated to go pull the lever for useless cucks.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 9:43 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10936 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:46 am to
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Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:46 am to
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The failure of the bill means the status quo remains - i.e., Obamacare. So, Donald Trump owns their frick up because he was unsuccessful in trying to fix it?


Correct.

I see you understand Progressives quite well.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:46 am to
Everyone knows nothing will be done.

Michigan, Arizona and Pennsylvania tells the story.

The overnight TV telemarketer sold you bullshite.
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