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re: It appears EBR school superintendent's days are numbered

Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2455 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:33 pm to
You paint a nice successful narrative, but his only real idea implemented was to just stir the student pot. He simply bused kids from failing schools to good schools and from good schools to failing schools making everyone a little more mediocre. He didn't burn it down faster than it already was, but he didn't improve it by any measurable means (not that any 4 year metric would be meaningful) .
Taylor is a problem, but he is not the problem. EBR schools has too many huge problems to fix. Break up the school system into a few smaller ones and you will have clearly defined problems that are much easier to address. Political correctness has tied our hands to addressing the root causes of the failures here. This solution, though roundabout, would let us diagnose it without speaking hard truths, and hopefully move past the unsavory systemic issues toward a model that would actually work.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:48 pm to
Have to be willing to have unpleasant conversations and be willing to call folks out whole being labeled a racist.

No one is willing to do this.

I have heard the money angle with Taylor, but how much would we save by canning his boyfriend's arse from his six figure job he has working in the school system as well? Sounds like we could cut the losses by killing two birds with one stone.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:00 pm to
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Huck Finn

Go ahead and run for school board, I'll vote for you.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36004 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:01 pm to
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Are you talking about the credits for graduating incident? Didn't EBR self report that? From what I heard it sounded like mistakes were made, when discovered they were reported, and EBR was willing to make changes to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Was there more to that than what I heard?


WBRZ investigated and found it was a whitewash and that Taylor only reported the problem after the state asked him about it .
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The investigation began over a graduation discrepancy. Taylor told News 2 this year, EBR self-reported the discrepancy. However, the documents News 2 obtained from the state show, Taylor did not self-report the problem until the State raised the issue.


ETA another report was done by WAFB exposing discipline problems and grade fixing . Don't believe any of the grades you see. They probably were doctored to dome degree from what I gather from this report.

LINK

Follow this link.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 9:11 pm
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7117 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 5:50 am to
School Performance Scores

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Elementary and middle schools earn points for student achievement on annual assessments in English language arts, math, science and social studies. Total points are divided by the total number of tests to calculate the School Performance Score. In elementary school, these points comprise 100% of the school grade. In schools with an 8th grade, these points comprise 95% of the school grade.


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High schools earn points for student achievement on the ACT (25%) and End-of-Course tests (25%), the graduation index (25%) and the graduate cohort rate (25%).


In elementary grade fixing seems pointless since all the scores come from state tests graded by the state. In High School there is no difference between a A and a D when it comes to the school score the only thing that effects it is graduation, so possible grade fixing at the senior level or possibly to prevent a kid from dropping out is the only incentive for such a tactic. So, I would question grade fixing at any organized level simply because its effect would be nothing to very minor.

I would bet they want bad kids to stay in school so they do better on the state test. They will surely fail if they aren't in school. This seems more like an issue with the states accountability system and the consequences of those scores more than anything.

The school system isn't perfect, but I think most people really don't look at what is going on for themselves much and just follow the current that is pushing for the system's destruction.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36004 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 7:43 am to
If you are willing to slough off all these investigative reports and defend Taylor and the current administration, I don't know what I can say.

Obviously we disagree about what is important and what is not.

Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2455 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:05 am to
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they want bad kids to stay in school


Right there. That's why we will not succeed. There is no adequate excuse for this, and you will never have good schools in Southeast BR with these types of policies in place. Give us a separate system. I promise that we'll do just fine, and over on the north side of I-10 maybe you can try a different tactic, where school grades are less important to the local PTA.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36004 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:29 am to
You have to take the bad kids out of the everyday schools so that children who are there to learn can learn.

Call it an alternative school or whatever you want; but you can not permit bad kids from ruining schools by intimidating teachers, causing trouble and screwing around with the good kids.

You weed them out.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:53 am to
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cssamerican
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In High School there is no difference between a A and a D when it comes to the school score the only thing that effects it is graduation, so possible grade fixing at the senior level or possibly to prevent a kid from dropping out is the only incentive for such a tactic. So, I would question grade fixing at any organized level simply because its effect would be nothing to very minor.


Waiting for Russian to LOL at that one.

Having said that, you're completely ignoring this from your own link...

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COHORT GRADUATION RATE

Schools earn points for the percent of students who graduate from high school within four years. This rate is calculated by dividing the number of students who graduate by the number of students who entered 9th grade four years earlier.


You honestly don't think there's an incentive to fluff the numbers in an area that impacts 25% of the school's grade in HS?

Or better yet, again from your own link, it mentions the Graduation Index counting for 25% of the overall score as well. Per student, the difference between a 4-year graduate/diploma recipient and a 5th year graduate is 25 points per student. For kids who don't go back and simply opt to receive a GED? It's 50 points total. For kids who wouldn't even bother with either? It's a 100 point per student swing.

You telling me with a straight face that it "seems" like there's not much incentive to push kids to graduate or to fudge the cohort # when it impacts up to HALF of the school's total score?

You're either a dilettante who didn't even read your own link before trying to defend a broken system, or you have an agenda to protect the system for some reason.

The motive for committing fraud is clear. By changing grades, increasing graduation rates and the like, you can impact school's scores which will allow you to funnel additional money into your own school system. In other words, it's a method by which school and system administrators are committing malfeasance via misappropriation of taxpayer money.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36004 posts
Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:29 pm to
Amen

Maybe the poster was being sarcastic and we missed this?

Either that or he isn't reading.
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