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re: Israel shelling Gaza hospital

Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Israel protects their women, children, hospitals and places of worship with rockets.

Hamas protects their rockets with women, children, hospitals and places of worship.




I laughed
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Hamas stashes their rockets in schools and hospitals to provoke such a response. They found over 100 rockets in an elementary school last week.


exactly
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:34 am to
quote:

They were shelling missile batteries. Hamas is the ones that placed them in the hospital.


This.

It is called counter-battery fire. They calculte the point of origin (ground based radar, etc) and return fire. Don't put it in a hospital and they will not fire on the hospital.

It truly is that simple.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62403 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:35 am to
quote:

It doesn't matter, you can't fire on civilian structures when civilians might be present.


Damn you Putin...
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27539 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:35 am to
Personally I would like to see Israel just charbroil a square mile area surrounding any missile launch they detect. This shite would end with the quickness.

Radicals will submit when confronted with truly overwhelming force. The problem today is that we are too pussy to use it anymore. The nukes on Japan is precedence
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:40 am to
I gotta agree with ole josh on this one. The Hamas rockets never target civilians.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79170 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:41 am to
People who appeal to international law make me laugh.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:41 am to
You people are so ready to assume things in order to defend blatant terrorism.

From Netanyahu's spokesperson:
quote:


"I have no doubt Hamas uses, has used and continues to use, hospitals … we do not target civilians," Regev said.

"But I am not aware of this specific situation."


So let me get this straight, the Israeli government isn't even willing to say this was in response to Hamas firing missiles, but you experts know enough about the situation to make that claim?


Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27539 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:42 am to
I'd like to know what was left out in the ... on that quote.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:43 am to
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I gotta agree with ole josh on this one. The Hamas rockets never target civilians.


What the hell does Hamas killing innocents have to do with Israel killing innocents?

If it is bad for one it is bad for the other, be consistent.

Meanwhile, since the conflict has began, 2 Israeli citizens have died (1 was helping the IDF) and over 400 Gazas citizens have died (100 of which are children).
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:44 am to
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2 Israeli citizens have died (1 was helping the IDF) and over 400 Gazas citizens have died (100 of which are children).


You would think Hamas would learn at some point and agree to a cease fire.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:45 am to
quote:

You would think Hamas would learn at some point and agree to a cease fire.


So that Palestinians can go back to living in their ghetto without standing up to the 4th Reich?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95259 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

It doesn't matter, you can't fire on civilian structures when civilians might be present.


Those structures are protected as long as combatants aren't using it to store weapons or for fighting.

If they start firing missiles from there or storing missiles there, it becomes a legitimate target.


Considering that Israel has been telegraphing where they'd hit before sending in the full fury, they're giving civilians a chance to move before shite gets real.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27539 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

So that Palestinians can go back to living in their ghetto without standing up to the 4th Reich?


Holy shite.

That. Just. Happened.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89506 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:48 am to
quote:

What the hell does Hamas killing innocents have to do with Israel killing innocents?


Because it triggers it.

quote:

If it is bad for one it is bad for the other, be consistent.


Both are bad. One started it, one is finishing it.

quote:

2 Israeli citizens have died (1 was helping the IDF) and over 400 Gazas citizens have died (100 of which are children).


They're losing. They (Hamas) should stop, then, right?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Holy shite.

That. Just. Happened.


No, it's been happening.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98893 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Meanwhile, since the conflict has began, 2 Israeli citizens have died (1 was helping the IDF) and over 400 Gazas citizens have died (100 of which are children).


And that has absolutely nothing to do with how Hamas positions their fighters and weapons. It's bad that civilians get caught in the middle, but Hamas is intentionally putting them there to create international sympathy when the civilians are killed.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:49 am to
quote:

So that Palestinians can go back to living in their ghetto without standing up to the 4th Reich?




You really aren't very bright. They can keep killing themselves if they so choose.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45213 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:49 am to
quote:

They're losing. They (Hamas) should stop, then, right?


They lose either way. Hamas should obviously stop firing on innocents, but that in no way justifies Israel's actions nor does it deny the Palestinians claim of abuse at the hands of the Israeli government.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79170 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

No, it's been happening.



Yeah bro, a few hundred deaths, some or many of which are people who had it coming, is totally a genocide. We, like, should do something, man!
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