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Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:57 pm to
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joshnorris14


Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10438 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 11:11 pm to
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Why don't you let them in your country?


I am not a Muslim brother?

If they are so nice and sweet, why are their muslim neighbors treating them so?

Do you love Palestinians or hate Jews?
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:46 am to
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In the West Bank, there are Jewish-only roads, Jewish-only towns and Jewish-only public facilities.
Holy shite, that sounds just like Saudi Arabia.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 12:52 am to
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Holy shite, that sounds just like Saudi Arabia.
If you are arguing that Saudi Arabia is an oppressive country that deserves not a thin dime of American support for its tPOS leadership, I will certainly not argue with you.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:23 am to
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If you are arguing that Saudi Arabia is an oppressive country that deserves not a thin dime of American support for its tPOS leadership, I will certainly not argue with you.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 3:30 am to
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In the West Bank, there are Jewish-only roads, Jewish-only towns and Jewish-only public facilities.
Holy shite, that sounds just like Saudi Arabia.

Good point! Finally you've said something I agree with. Do you agree with me that Saudi Arabia is not a democracy, but an oppressive theocracy that goes against everything the U.S. stands for?
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:38 am to
Jewish settlements in the West Bank are provocative and should be abandoned if Israel is serious about a two state solution. Given the fact they withdrew from settlements in Gaza, I believe they would do the same for the West Bank.

Until a peace treaty is executed Israel is still at war over the West Bank, and the non-Israeli residents of the West Bank are Israel's enemies. Separating enemies from your citizens is a reasonable practice.

Do the Saudis separate themselves from all non-Muslims because the non-Muslims are their enemies? Are there Jewish only roads, etc. in Israel?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Member since Sep 2005
72931 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 8:51 am to
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Good point! Finally you've said something I agree with. Do you agree with me that Saudi Arabia is not a democracy, but an oppressive theocracy that goes against everything the U.S. stands for?


Judeo-Christian theocracy good, Muslim theocracy bad. To conservative Americans and Jews, that is.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:09 am to
Stupidity is the main reason Americans support the apartheid racist states, and I'm not talking about the right wing whacks like many people on this board are...I'm talking about the avg american Joe. The majority of europeans have a negative view towards Israel because they are more informed regarding the Israeli ethnic cleansing of pals.
Here in the US, the sheeple believe what the media tells them, which is all pro israeli. I was watching the local news for the last few days and they did a segment on the gaza war, all they focused about is how it is inconvenient for the Israeli to have to deal with the gaza war without single mention of the pals casualties or any word about the pals. talk about media bias.
American lawmakers are afraid of the Israeli lobby, they own that arse
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:20 am to
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WORLD NEWS 07.20.14
Did the United Nations Give Rockets to Hamas?
The U.N. agency that runs schools and hospitals in Gaza is supposed to be neutral. But it gave 20 rockets found in one of its buildings to cops who many believe report to Hamas.
When 20 rockets were discovered last week in a U.N.-funded school in Gaza, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees was quick to condemn the storage of weapons of war in a building meant to educate children.

But rather than turn them over to a third party, or arrange for their disposal, the agency, known as UNRWA, handed them over to the local police force, which was established by Hamas, and is believed to be under the militant group’s control. In other words, the supposedly neutral agency may have given weapons to one of the combatants in a conflict that has claimed more than 360 lives in the past two weeks.

“We are examining what happened with these rockets. If UNRWA did pass it to Hamas it strongly harms [UNRWA’s] credibility and impartiality,” an Israeli official told The Daily Beast.

UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness told The Daily Beast on Sunday that after finding the rockets on July 17 in a vacant UNRWA school in Gaza, the organization contacted the local police bomb squad, which came and took the rockets away. Gunness said he didn’t see an issue with the handover, because the local authorities who took control of the rockets reported to the Palestinian government in Ramallah, not to Hamas, which heads the government and runs the police force in Gaza.

“It’s shocking to see UNRWA handing over weapons to forces that can and will use them to shoot at Israel and kill Israelis and perpetuate this conflict.”
“According to longstanding UN practice in UN humanitarian operations worldwide, incidents involving unexploded ordnance that could endanger beneficiaries and staff are referred to the local authorities,” Gunness told The Daily Beast in a statement. “Local authorities fall under the government of national consensus in Ramallah. They pledged to pass a message to all parties not to violate UNRWA neutrality.”

The dispute over the rockets comes as the fighting in Gaza entered its deadliest day. A Sunday offensive by the Israelis on the Al Shejaiya neighborhood killed 60 people and injured another 400, according to Palestinian estimates. The Israelis lost 13 soldiers, and reportedly had a 14th captured by Hamas’ Qassam Brigades.

Hamas, which is designated by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist organization, has been lobbing hundreds of rockets into Israel over the past week. In response, Israel has launched an ongoing air and ground campaign to destroy Hamas rocket capabilities and smuggling tunnels. Hamas stands accused of using international facilities in its attacks because such facilities are seen to be less vulnerable to Israeli strikes.

Israel, for its part, seems at times unable to distinguish between civilian and military targets—killing dozens of women, children, and the elderly in the process. Last week, for example, Israeli forces bombarded a beach where boys were playing soccer. Four children under the age of 15 were slain.

UNRWA, which operates dozens of schools in Gaza, is obligated to be neutral in the conflict, but the Israeli government has long accused the agency, especially its chief spokesman, of pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas bias. Last week, Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Ron Prosor called for Gunness to be fired after Gunness encouraged reporters over Twitter to interview a Norwegian expert in Gaza who has expressed support for the 9/11 attacks.


Reached by phone in Barcelona, Spain, Gunness insisted that the local authorities in Gaza report to the Palestinian government in Ramallah, not to Hamas.

“As far as we are concerned, the government that we are dealing with now is the government of national consensus and they have authority over the organization that we dealt with for getting rid of these rockets from our school,” he said. “We handed them over to the relevant authorities, and that organization, as it were, the experts that came and did it, are under the government of national consensus in Ramallah.”

UNRWA had other options, though. The agency isn’t in the ordnance disposal business, of course. But it could have turned the rockets over to a third party. It could have closed off the school until another international organization with ordnance disposal skills secured the area. After the 2009 Israel-Hamas war known as Operation Cast Lead, U.N. agencies collected unexploded ordnance and stored them in a warehouse, and the Israeli Defense Forces picked them up. (Although, to be fair, that operation happened after the fighting was done.)
The fate of the rockets is now unknown. While the Gaza police is almost certainly under Hamas’ sway, it’s an open question to what degree any individual police unit cooperates with Hamas’ irregular army. An Israeli official said the Israeli government is working now to try to confirm that Hamas had taken back the rockets and put them back into circulation.

Israeli officials and experts told The Daily Beast there is no doubt that local authorities in Gaza, including but not limited to the police, are loyal to Hamas. The Israeli Defense Forces have included the Gaza police in their attacks on Hamas in recent days, including an attack on the police cadet academy and an unsuccessful attempt to kill Tayseer al-Batsh, the Hamas police chief in Gaza.

In a statement July 17, UNRWA condemned the storing of rockets in the school and called the incident the “first of its kind” in the Gaza Strip. In November 2012, UNRWA denied claims by the IDF that Hamas was using UNRWA facilities to store and fire rockets.

This video uploaded by the IDF to YouTube in 2009 claims to show Hamas militants firing mortar shells into Israel from a U.N. school in Gaza in October 2007. In 2009, the IDF announced it had killed Hamas militants in an UNRWA school.

On July 14, the IDF tweeted a photo showing what it claims to be a Hamas weapons storage facility steps away from a school and an UNRWA medical facility.

UNRWA has opened an investigation into the rockets found in its school in July but may not release all of its findings. “When our report comes out, we will take a decision on what we will release,” Gunness said.

Josh Block, CEO of The Israel Project, said UNRWA’s actions are tantamount to giving Hamas a green light to store weapons in schools. If the weapons are discovered, Hamas knows it will get them back.

“It’s shocking to see UNRWA handing over weapons to forces that can and will use them to shoot at Israel and kill Israelis and perpetuate this conflict,” he said. “It’s a betrayal of the U.N.’s mission, of the Palestinian people that UNRWA is intended to serve, and calls into question international support for such an entity.”

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Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 9:56 am to
IDF massacred 15-20 refugees at a UN school and wounded over 200. Now that the hospitals have been bombed too, where can they get medical aid?
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7189 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:28 am to
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rtts48



How can you regurgitate those lies. I bet you raised hell when Clinton bombed that aspirin factory huh?

Anti Semites trying to justify constant bombings of Israel make me sick.

Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16724 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:33 am to
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Stupidity is the main reason Americans support the apartheid racist states, and I'm not talking about the right wing whacks like many people on this board are...I'm talking about the avg american Joe. The majority of europeans have a negative view towards Israel because they are more informed regarding the Israeli ethnic cleansing of pals.
Here in the US, the sheeple believe what the media tells them, which is all pro israeli. I was watching the local news for the last few days and they did a segment on the gaza war, all they focused about is how it is inconvenient for the Israeli to have to deal with the gaza war without single mention of the pals casualties or any word about the pals. talk about media bias.
American lawmakers are afraid of the Israeli lobby, they own that arse


spot on.

so asking why it is the way it is - We're basically buying a strategic ally in the middle of the most unslettled place in the world. For that, we look the other way when things happen that we wouldnt normally agree with.

Its a damn shame.
This post was edited on 7/24/14 at 11:34 am
Posted by rtts48
Member since Jul 2014
350 posts
Posted on 7/24/14 at 11:44 am to
Netanyahu's psychiatrist commits suicide!!

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Moshe Yatom, a prominent Israeli psychiatrist who successfully cured the most extreme forms of mental illness throughout a distinguished career, was found dead at his home in Tel Aviv yesterday from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

A suicide note at his side explained that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been his patient for the last nine years, had “sucked the life right out of me.”

“I can’t take it anymore,” wrote Yatom.

“Robbery is redemption, apartheid is freedom, peace activists are terrorists, murder is self-defense, piracy is legality, Palestinians are Jordanians, annexation is liberation, there’s no end to his contradictions.

Freud promised rationality would reign in the instinctual passions, but he never met Bibi Netanyahu.

This guy would say Gandhi invented brass knuckles.”

Psychiatrists are familiar with the human tendency to massage the truth to avoid confronting emotionally troubling material, but Yatom was apparently stunned at what he called the “waterfall of lies” gushing from his most illustrious patient.

His personal diary details the steady disintegration of his once invincible personality under the barrage of self-serving rationalizations put forth by Netanyahu.

“I’m completely shocked,” said neighbor Yossi Bechor, whose family regularly vacationed with Yatom’s family.

“Moshe was the epitome of the fully-integrated personality and had cured dozens of schizophrenics before beginning work on Bibi.

There was no outward indication that his case was any different from the others.”

But it was. Yatom grew increasingly depressed at his complete lack of progress in getting the Prime Minister to acknowledge reality, and he eventually suffered a series of strokes when attempting to grasp Netanyahu’s thinking, which he characterized in one diary entry as “a black hole of self-contradiction.”

The first of Yatom’s strokes occurred when Netanyahu offered his opinion that the 911 attacks on Washington and New York

“were good.”

The second followed a session in which Netanyahu insisted that Iran and Nazi Germany were identical.

And the third occurred after the Prime Minister declared Iran’s nuclear energy program was a “flying gas chamber,” and that all Jews everywhere “lived permanently in Auschwitz.”

Yatom’s efforts to calm Netanyahu’s hysteria were extremely taxing emotionally and routinely ended in failure.

“The alibi is always the same with him,” complained another diary entry.

“The Jews are on the verge of annihilation at the hands of the racist goyim and the only way to save the day is to carry out one final massacre.”

Yatom was apparently working on converting his diary into a book about the Netanyahu case.

Several chapters of an unfinished manuscript, entitled “Psychotic On Steroids,” were found in his study.

The excerpt below offers a rare glimpse at the inner workings of a Prime Minister’s mind, at the same time as it reveals the daunting challenge Yatom faced in seeking to guide it to rationality:

Monday, March 8

“Bibi came by at three for his afternoon session.

At four he refused to leave and claimed my house was actually his.

Then he locked me in the basement overnight while he lavishly entertained his friends upstairs.

When I tried to escape, he called me a terrorist and put me in shackles.

I begged for mercy, but he said he could hardly grant it to someone who didn’t even exist.”

Sequel

Second Psychiatrist Suicide Rocks Israel
Defense Minister’s Analyst Overdoses on Valium – Wave of “Shrinkicides” Feared

Just one week after Benjamin Netanyahu’s psychiatrist Moshe Yatom killed himself in despair over his failure to develop an effective treatment for the Prime Minister, a second psychiatrist suicide has left Israel reeling.

Yigal Peleg, 61, a colleague of Yatom’s who had been treating Defense Minister Ehud Barak for Security Addiction Disorder (SAD), was found dead at his home in Tel Aviv Monday evening from an overdose of Valium.

A suicide note indicated that Yatom’s failure had provoked widespread despair in Israel’s psychiatric community, which fears a therapeutic remedy for doublethink is much more remote than previously believed.

Security Addiction Disorder, often characterized by blizzards of doublethink, is also now believed to be well nigh incurable.

The loss of two such highly successful analysts to clinical depression in such a short time has left Israel fearing a wave of “shrinkicides” may be in the offing.

Many government officials are currently undergoing analysis, with virtually all of them sporting the same penchant for doublethink that drove Yatom and Peleg over the edge.

If current treatments continue to prove ineffective, a psychiatric “Jonestown” could well be the result.

“Laypeople don’t realize the stress involved in treating ideology-induced psychosis,” observes Dr. Rafael Eilam, best-selling author of Zionist Lunacy On The Couch: The Perilous Quest For a Cure (Sanity Books, 2010).

“Take Security Addiction Disorder. A client afflicted with this illness simply cannot perceive that domination and security are not the same thing.

To dominate another is to guarantee insecurity, since the dominated instinctively seek to escape domination by any means available.”

Given the almost total blindness of SAD patients to their own aggression, psychiatrists who treat them often can’t resist impulses to bash their own brains out with the nearest blunt object.

This tends to reduce the quality of their subsequent research.

Similar problems confront psychoanalysts treating Massive Attack Disorder (MAD), which is said to be rampant among Israeli leaders.

Patients afflicted with this dread disease lack the maturity to understand their own needs, let alone those of others, and destroy everything in their vicinity like a cranky toddler smashing his toys.

The illness has a poor prognosis, as victims typically don’t notice that they are worse off in the wake of each tantrum.

According to Dr. Eilam, Israel’s savage attacks on Lebanon and Gaza in recent years may be credited to their MAD proclivities, with both attacks having contributed substantially to Israel’s current pariah status.

In a somewhat surprising development, psychiatrists world-wide are rallying to support their embattled Israeli colleagues by forming a Free Israel movement.

As their first major action they are planning to sail a flotilla to Tel Aviv loaded with humanitarian relief supplies for Israeli psychoanalysts and their high-profile patients; that is, tons of anti-depressants for the former and elephant tranquilizers for the latter.

Flotilla organizers admit that these are only palliatives, but argue that the elephant tranquilizers in particular have been shown to be at least moderately effective in calming the symptoms of Zionist Infantile Outburst Neurosis (ZION),

the most serious of which is a chronic impulse to rob, swindle, torture and murder all those who,

in the victim’s judgment,

which is by definition infallible,

impede the onward march to the Zionist paradise.

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yes, we know it's satire
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