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re: Is Trump changing positions, or is he negotiating?

Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84765 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Is Trump changing positions or is CNN just focused on reporting everything in a negative way? CNN would have done the same for Obama, right? Gitmo is gone, correct?


This is such a tired excuse. Obama sucked as a president and followed through on a minimal amount of his campaign promises, but using that as a defense of Trump's shortcomings is ridiculous. "Obama did it, so Trump can do it" is absurd.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:45 pm to
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He changes his rhetoric and now they have abstained from voting in the UN, which was a huge surprise.
Since when is China abstaining in the UN a huge surprise?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Is Trump changing positions, or is he negotiating?


I dont think trump really has positions, which is a plus and a minus.

I do think he is trying to not be a complete failure, and that is his overriding goal. this means being flexible.

its not a bad thing IMHO, although I don't really like his new positions better than the old ones.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:47 pm to
Trump is following through on every campaign promise he can do.

The list is as long as my arm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Didn't even know about the bomb in Afghanistan.


He didn't have to. Reported on tv that the General overseeing the operations there had carte blanche to do as he pleased - and he did it.

Now we know the rest of the story.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:53 pm to
Yep. No wonder the Neocons are winning. That backwards thinking pence is running the show. Trump is like Reagan when he had dementia while in office there as a prop.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:58 pm to
He is wheeling and dealing. We could very well see China take care of fatso in NK. NK will die without Chinese support.
Sessions doing work. Mattis doing work. Gorsuch in the Supreme Court. Stood up to Putin.
He has done more than Barry ever did!
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:00 pm to
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Since when is China abstaining in the UN a huge surprise?



I believe on Syria it was a big surprise. Russia was counting on their vote.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:03 pm to
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I believe on Syria it was a big surprise. Russia was counting on their vote.
They abstained on another Syria resolution in October 2016. And Russia doesn't really need to "count on" their vote, it only takes one of them to veto.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:07 pm to
pathological liar?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:28 pm to
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They abstained on another Syria resolution in October 2016. And Russia doesn't really need to "count on" their vote, it only takes one of them to veto.



Counting on was wrong verbiage to use there. Sorry. Meant "expecting" them to back them up.

At least according to CNN, who called this a win for Trump, so when they say shite like that, you know it was big
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:25 pm to
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Trump is following through on every campaign promise he can do.

The list is as long as my arm


We're listening
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:32 pm to
Unfortunately this Syria thing has him walking into neocon land. He needs to get away from that.

Literally if he did ACA repeal, immigration (both mexico and islamic country) reforms, tax reform, and Supreme Court I would be ecstatic.

Unfortunately only 1/4 of those is looking like it's going to happen. Still holding out hope on immigration now that Gorsuch is confirmed.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 7:34 am to
Mexico will never make good on trump bs wall payments.

Lie.

Big.

Rinse repeat.
This post was edited on 4/14/17 at 7:36 am
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 4/14/17 at 7:38 am to
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he is dealing



Putin will have him bent over the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office and you guys will say he "dealing".
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