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Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context ?

Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:19 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:19 pm
"Death to all jews"

is that what is says and in context?

Other Muslims claim, Muhammad is about love and much like Jesus teachings

I am just asking if anyone knows or understands

I've never seen the evil we're seeing...in the name of Allah

Do peaceful Muslim's need to disowned Hamas or is there a problem "being a real Muslim?" ?
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:21 pm to
Allah is a bloodthirsty demon at the center of their religion masquerading as being interchangeable with the God of the Bible.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:32 pm to
You should have asked one of his child brides what sort of man he was.
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:43 pm to
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"Death to all jews"



It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:45 pm to
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It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...

quote:

It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...



correct

but we're hearing death to the jews

why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:50 pm to
It is when paired with The Hadith.
Posted by Thundercles
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:53 pm to
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why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it


They don't hate Jews for the fact they're Jewish. They hate Zionists (people who want to establish Jewish state in their holy land, meaning Israel). Since all those people are Jewish, that translates very naturally to hating Jews.
Posted by LSUTitan99
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 8:59 pm to
Why do they think Muhammad was a profit?
Posted by Knartfocker
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:01 pm to
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Why do they think Muhammad was a profit?


Because he ended up being incredibly wealthy?
Posted by Bayou
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:01 pm to
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I just don't get it

You're not going to "get it" unless you desire to "get it." That ain't gonna happen on Tigerdroppings.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

quote:

It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...



correct

but we're hearing death to the jews

why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it
Several things, in context.

1) to the ultra-devout, there's a mandate to cleanse and purify the world. This means removing non-believers.
They will give a pagan the option of converting, but the Jews (and Christians) have had their chance. They consider the Old Testament correct, and the teachings of Jesus as a prophet. But those faiths do not consider Mohammed to be The Prophet, so... they've already rejected what, in the eyes of Islam, is the continued flow of the faith. In other words, they have turned away from the chosen path, and must be purged.

2) Islam focuses on holy territory. Israel was created by the Europeans after WW2, and stuck right in the middle of the Holy Land. To them, that's an abomination not to be tolerated.

3) to the more secular, that second point still rings true- especially to those people displaced when Israel was created. They can be completely atheist, and still harbor hatred to those they consider usurpers of their homeland.
It just gets easier to commit atrocities when your religion encourages, DEMANDS that you remove the Jews from that land.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:17 pm to
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Allah is a bloodthirsty demon at the center of their religion masquerading as being interchangeable with the God of the Bible.



the god of the bible can be described as a bloodthirsty demon as well. have you actually read the bible? there's a lot of f***d up shite in it.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:20 pm to
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Israel was created by the Europeans after WW2,


Israel did not exist in the Levant before WWII?
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:24 pm to
Not as an independent country.
Posted by joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:26 pm to
Islam is incompatible with the West.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:28 pm to
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"Death to all jews" is that what is says and in context? Other Muslims claim, Muhammad is about love and much like Jesus teachings


On the contrary, Jews are “people of the book” along with Christians and are not to be forcibly converted or killed but rather to be tolerated.

There were early groups of Torah-observant Jewish Christians in Arabia that Paul wrote about visiting. St Ignacius of Antioch described in letters of heretical Christian groups in Arabia and Egypt who followed the teachings of Jesus but did not believe Jesus was crucified or even died. Most likely one of these groups became the Muslims.

In the Quran, it also states that the Torah and the Gospel were both revealed messages from Allah.

Eloah = generic “god” in Hebrew
Allah = the only “God” in Arabic

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Do peaceful Muslim's need to disowned Hamas or is there a problem "being a real Muslim?"


Yes they do. Anyone who is a “real Muslim” or “real Jew” or “real Christian” who takes their book as the literal word of God is not only deluded but they can become violent extremists. Most religious followers don’t even know what their religious scriptures even say and are happy to to to church or mosque and live their lives respecting others in peace.
Posted by tee3
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:29 pm to
Do the Talmud now
Posted by MrBobDobalina
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:30 pm to
Hot take
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:31 pm to
Too much for tonight, but their outright bad acts and beliefs are a natural extension of their theology. Not a distortion.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

quote:

Israel was created by the Europeans after WW2,



Israel did not exist in the Levant before WWII?

quote:

Not as an independent country.
This is why understanding history is so important.
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