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Is the dossier the only evidence that Mueller is using in the DT investigation?
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:36 pm
And the resulting FISA?
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:38 pm to DEG
If McCabe is to be believed, it was the integral reason why the FISA was reauthorized for a key trump player.
This goes beyond trump and mueller....the memo itself is a concern for anyone who calls himself a civil libertarian.
It's worrisome if the standard for evidence to justify surveillance is so low.
This goes beyond trump and mueller....the memo itself is a concern for anyone who calls himself a civil libertarian.
It's worrisome if the standard for evidence to justify surveillance is so low.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:39 pm to DEG
Whatever “evidence” gets presented should have virtually zero credibility due to the proven bias from the investigatory agency currently in charge.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:41 pm to DEG
No, not now.
The question, I think, is whether at some point it was all/most of the evidence.
But Don Jr. met personally with a former FSB attorney, so it's certainly not all Mueller has in the way of angles to investigate. And yes, people will chime in on Fusion's role in that, but it's not wholesale the same as the dossier.
The question, I think, is whether at some point it was all/most of the evidence.
But Don Jr. met personally with a former FSB attorney, so it's certainly not all Mueller has in the way of angles to investigate. And yes, people will chime in on Fusion's role in that, but it's not wholesale the same as the dossier.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:42 pm to DEG
McCabe said so
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:42 pm to DEG
If I was Mueller’s team we would have a poison fruit assessment of our whole investigation.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This goes beyond trump and mueller....the memo itself is a concern for anyone who calls himself a civil libertarian. It's worrisome if the standard for evidence to justify surveillance is so low.
I agree, but what aspects of the dossier and FISA output is still being used by Mueller?
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This goes beyond trump and mueller....the memo itself is a concern for anyone who calls himself a civil libertarian.
You mean dossier right?
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You think the Dems give a damn about civil liberties? You have a want in another thread claiming all the FBI has to do is invoke the sources and methods argument and any document should remain classified. You have other Dems calling anyone and everyone a Russian agent for no more crime than a difference of opinion. They are authoritarians whose only ideology is opposition to Donald Trump.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:43 pm to DEG
If the warrant applicants were willing to lie by omission regarding one piece of evidence, why wouldn't they do it for others?
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:44 pm to Pettifogger
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But Don Jr. met personally with a former FSB attorney
the one who was given special permission to stay in the US by Lynch, then met with Fusion GPS the day before and the day after the Jr meeting?
riiiiight.
keep trying to say youre "neutral" you fricking hack.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It's worrisome if the standard for evidence to justify surveillance is so low.
I posted this in the circle-jerk. However unseemly some of this might seem (and I have my doubts about the Nunes memo), it sure ain't illegal.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:45 pm to Pettifogger
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But Don Jr. met personally with a former FSB attorney
What's funny is that even assuming the meeting had the worst implied intentions, that he was meeting to try and secure opposition research, all it would do is prove that he was TRYING to do what the Hillary campaign and DNC actually DID.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:46 pm to DEG
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agree, but what aspects of the dossier and FISA output is still being used by Mueller?
The problem is any defendant is going to be able to attack the investigation on 4th amendment grounds
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:46 pm to Robin Masters
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Whatever “evidence” gets presented should have virtually zero credibility
Not really. There are empirical facts and then there is circumstantial evidence. I agree that the circumstantial evidence is tainted, but fact-based evidence is still credible.
And for the record, I don't think DT colluded. I just want to distinguish fact from fiction.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:46 pm to CptBengal
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keep trying to say youre "neutral" you fricking hack.
I'm not neutral, I'm pro Trump on this issue
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:47 pm to DEG
The dossier is minor stuff in what Mueller has amassed. Kushner and Don Jr. will get indicted. Don’t think the Prez gets indicted. Ivanka will have visit her man in prison- just like Jared visited his daddy.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:47 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm not neutral, I'm pro Trump on this issue
I notice you avoided the rest of my post.
Keep trying. You seem so smart.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:47 pm to Geauxst Writer
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Kushner and Don Jr. will get indicted.
Puff puff pass my friend
Posted on 2/2/18 at 1:48 pm to CptBengal
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Keep trying. You seem so smart.
Cpt stop we're past this
It's because I made fun of you about the Soros SS thing isn't it
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