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Is Morality Fluid?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:31 am
Is it possible for what is moral to be fluid or is it static...meaning it does not change or is based on immovable concepts?
How does your view of morality shape your political leanings?
How does your view of morality shape your political leanings?
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:34 am to DeltaDoc
of course morality if fluid, that should be obvious to anyone that took 9th grade history
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:35 am to Salmon
Does it have parameters?
By the way, I'm talking absolute morality, i.e., true right and wrong.
By the way, I'm talking absolute morality, i.e., true right and wrong.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:40 am to DeltaDoc
It is subjective and fluid with man. It is objective with God / the universe.
What are getting at?
What are getting at?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:40 am to DeltaDoc
I struggle to think of a hypothetical in which morality is eternally static. Did you have one in mind when posing this question?
My initial thought is that it has to be fluid, both societally and individually.
My initial thought is that it has to be fluid, both societally and individually.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:41 am to DeltaDoc
quote:I don't think it's an either or situation. For example, IMO, murder is always morally wrong as an outcome, but there are situations where the reason for outcome (e.g., justifiable homicide, self defense) is justified and practical so the action itself is much more defensible morally.
Is it possible for what is moral to be fluid or is it static...meaning it does not change or is based on immovable concepts?
How does your view of morality shape your political leanings?
In other words, context does matter. So for me, there is an static anchor, with fluidity around that anchor based on the context.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:42 am to 9th life
quote:
a hypothetical in which morality is eternally static
Murder is still considered immoral. Some day, it will probably be acceptable behavior to man, imo.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:43 am to T1
quote:
Murder is still considered immoral. Some day, it will probably be acceptable behavior to man, imo.
the justification for killing people is constantly changing though, so even that isn't static
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:44 am to T1
Colluding with Russia used to be immoral.
yes, I'd say it's fluid.
yes, I'd say it's fluid.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 8:44 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:44 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
Is Morality Fluid?
Depends on your gender
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:44 am to DeltaDoc
Subjective morality is meaningless.
Below is a 13 min video.
Warning: do not watch if you are red pill adverse.
CS Lewis - The Poison of Subjectivism.
Below is a 13 min video.
Warning: do not watch if you are red pill adverse.
CS Lewis - The Poison of Subjectivism.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 8:56 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:46 am to T1
Just wondering what the board position is and how it shapes views.
For instance, if morality is fluid...is it fluid within the individual or the group? Why or why not.
Is morality just what is better for the herd, or is it an absolute?
If it is a herd mentality, how can we negatively judge the moral reality of Antifa or nazis? How can we judge the moral reality of races, genders, etc?
Therefore, are there layers of morality...some for the individual, some for the subgroup and some for all?
Tim Cook has called for a return to morality. It made me wonder what that really even means to people.
For instance, if morality is fluid...is it fluid within the individual or the group? Why or why not.
Is morality just what is better for the herd, or is it an absolute?
If it is a herd mentality, how can we negatively judge the moral reality of Antifa or nazis? How can we judge the moral reality of races, genders, etc?
Therefore, are there layers of morality...some for the individual, some for the subgroup and some for all?
Tim Cook has called for a return to morality. It made me wonder what that really even means to people.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:47 am to T1
Murder is not even defined in today's society relative to what is life in the abortion context.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:48 am to DeltaDoc
quote:True morality? Not so much. Contemporary morality, as defined by social tolerances and political correctness, is fluid. In large part, that is because tolerance and political correctness are extraordinarily fluid.
Is Morality Fluid?
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:50 am to DeltaDoc
This ultimately gets to the question of whether there is a Creator of the universe who provided a moral law to mankind.
Even if every German believed exterminating Jews was a good thing, it would still be objectively immoral. It's moral to them, but immoral to the law of the universe.
If Antifa believes it is moral to kill skinheads and white supremacists, it is still objectively immoral. It's moral to them, but immoral to the law of the universe.
If there is no Creator and no law of the universe, then there is no morality and anything goes.
Even if every German believed exterminating Jews was a good thing, it would still be objectively immoral. It's moral to them, but immoral to the law of the universe.
If Antifa believes it is moral to kill skinheads and white supremacists, it is still objectively immoral. It's moral to them, but immoral to the law of the universe.
If there is no Creator and no law of the universe, then there is no morality and anything goes.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:50 am to DeltaDoc
The better question is, does morality evolve?
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:52 am to T1
quote:So despite becoming far less acceptable over time, you think that it will actually become far more acceptable?
Some day, it will probably be acceptable behavior to man, imo.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:53 am to NC_Tigah
I think that's a good answer. However, it only equates to there being no morality, only social norms which can be codified.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:54 am to udtiger
Or does it devolve? For instance, people might say we are more immoral in some ways than we were 50-75 years ago...on some issues
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:56 am to buckeye_vol
I can see it being blamed on genetics in the future. "It wasn't really their fault, they were born that way."
Kind of like the movie "Minority Report." They were predisposed to murder at birth, it was there destiny because they were passed along the poor genes of their parents.
You will be considered hateful if you don't have compassion on the genes they inherited. (maybe, who knows really?)
We are getting to the point where we can't agree on gender.
Kind of like the movie "Minority Report." They were predisposed to murder at birth, it was there destiny because they were passed along the poor genes of their parents.
You will be considered hateful if you don't have compassion on the genes they inherited. (maybe, who knows really?)
We are getting to the point where we can't agree on gender.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 8:58 am
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