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Is judging someone because of their IQ an example of bigotry?

Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:43 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:43 am
IQ is as "physically inherent" as say skin color or sexual orientation. What we see repeatedly however is that people are assumed to be less worthy if they have IQs that are not all that great. To me, this is a problematic and troubling trend because to be human is not solely to be of the mind but of the chest, of the soul. People that may not be great in an educational setting are still important members of society and they should not be brushed away because they are "dumb".
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45751 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:44 am to
I don't hold it against you, honestly.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:44 am to
The (Other) Parable of the Talents
quote:

There are frequent political debates in which conservatives (or straw conservatives) argue that financial success is the result of hard work, so poor people are just too lazy to get out of poverty. Then a liberal (or straw liberal) protests that hard work has nothing to do with it, success is determined by accidents of birth like who your parents are and what your skin color is et cetera, so the poor are blameless in their own predicament.

I’m oversimplifying things, but again the compassionate/sympathetic/progressive side of the debate – and the side endorsed by many of the poor themselves – is supposed to be that success is due to accidents of birth, and the less compassionate side is that success depends on hard work and perseverance and grit and willpower.

The obvious pattern is that attributing outcomes to things like genes, biology, and accidents of birth is kind and sympathetic. Attributing them to who works harder and who’s “really trying” can stigmatize people who end up with bad outcomes and is generally viewed as Not A Nice Thing To Do.

And the weird thing, the thing I’ve never understood, is that intellectual achievement is the one domain that breaks this pattern.

Here it’s would-be hard-headed conservatives arguing that intellectual greatness comes from genetics and the accidents of birth and demanding we “accept” this “unpleasant truth”.

And it’s would-be compassionate progressives who are insisting that no, it depends on who works harder, claiming anybody can be brilliant if they really try, warning us not to “stigmatize” the less intelligent as “genetically inferior”.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 10:45 am
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:45 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41673 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:45 am to
Dumb shaming? Yeah, it's just one of many ways people don't want to tolerate others. Everyone does it to one extent or another, but the hypocrisy of the left in this regard is fascinating due to how much emphasis they put on "tolerance".
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:45 am to
Just because someone has a low IQ doesn't mean they're a bad person. It just means they can't be a brain surgeon.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:47 am to
So for example, Apple discriminates against low IQ right? Really any successful company discriminates against low IQ. Just like the NBA discriminates against shorter people. The hypocrisy from the left about workplace discrimination is always comical.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

. It just means they can't be a brain surgeon.

Why can't they be, you bigoted POS??
Posted by TheRodFather
Member since Sep 2014
619 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:48 am to
IQ isn't real according to leftist (unless it is to get a violent murderer or rapists a lighter sentence, then IQ becomes very real and very important).
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:

IQ isn't real according to leftist (unless it is to get a violent murderer or rapists a lighter sentence, then IQ becomes very real and very important).
IQ is definitely real, otherwise this forum would be able to pluralize words ending in "-ist"
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:51 am to
god what a fricking boss scott alexander is

did you see his thing about cost disease and all its responses this week?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69294 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:51 am to
Interesting read
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:53 am to
Yeah, it was pretty good. Thought about posting it here but the response would just be "gubmint did it" and if you point to the lack of a similar signal in Europe "they don't have blacks." This board doesn't have a large opening book.
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 10:54 am
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10975 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:53 am to
Why come you doesn't like my brain?
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11960 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:53 am to
quote:

success is determined by accidents of birth like who your parents

Umm it's no acccident
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3598 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:54 am to
IQ is overrated as a measurement.

I really don't feel that I'm smarter than 99.9% of the population.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16968 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Is judging someone because of their IQ an example of bigotry?


Asking about IQ on this board is like asking a veterinarian about eating meat.
Posted by pmacattack
Member since Oct 2016
6662 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:56 am to
what a great guy for not faulting losers and haters for being losers and haters.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Asking about IQ on this board is like asking a veterinarian about eating meat.
My god it's like an iron law of the forum that every post with an IQ jab must contain at least one syntax error
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 2/17/17 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Thought about posting it here but the response would just be "gubmint did it" and if you point to the lack of a similar signal in Europe "they don't have blacks." This board doesn't have a large opening book.

you should made one and titled it "Spice is Right: 2/16"
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