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re: Is it time that government regulates the media & possibly bans reporting on mass killings?
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:27 pm to winston318
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:27 pm to winston318
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So you are for the right to bear arms, but you're against freedom of the press. WTF type of american are you
Some of y'all are really dense. His post went right over your head.
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Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:28 pm to winston318
quote:SFP is pro 1st and 2nd amendments.
So you are for the right to bear arms, but you're against freedom of the press. WTF type of american are you
He framed the OP as a gotcha for liberals who cry for gun control after every shooting, when the "science" says the media is more to blame than the guns. IOW the argument is limiting the 1st amendment would do more to curb the violence than limiting the 2nd, but you never hear a liberal calling for free speech restrictions after a shooting.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:28 pm to Centinel
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This post is wasted on about 90% of the people here SFP.
Well played sir, well played.
Shocking, eh?
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:31 pm to Korkstand
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but you never hear a liberal calling for free speech restrictions after a shooting.
it's not just that. they'd freak the frick out if somebody honestly suggested it
could you imagine the media's reaction to that policy proposal?
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:32 pm to skinny domino
quote:quote:link?
there's more science behind the media causing mass killings than gun ownership causing them
There's a link right there in the OP, and that link has several more links.
You can disagree with the premise and/or the "science", but just calling for a link in this thread is kinda lazy.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we need to adopt mainstream values of today to this problem of mass media. when the founding fathers drafted the protections of the press in the 1st Amendment, they could NEVER imagine a media like we had today. they clearly only intended to protect words written by hand or the printing press, and could never conceive of cable tv let alone the internet and streaming news coverage. it's clear they never intended for THIS to be covered by the 1st Amendment
No one should be able to stream news at faster than 56k. There really is no need for it. It's time for common sense media legislation.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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when the founding fathers drafted the protections of the press in the 1st Amendment, they could NEVER imagine a media like we had today
Media has their share of warts, no doubt, but I have to ask, couldn't you say the same thing about the interpretation of the 2d Amendment? Did our forefathers imagine the assault rifle and high volume magazines? The 2d Amendment was written after our war for independence where we did not have a full-time trained/paid and substantial DOD. We had a fledgling police force (compared to today's standards)in most communities and there were no grocery stores every few miles. The fact that our citizens needed muskets for hunting to eat and to potentially be called up for service in a militia was very real. Today?
I have exercised my 2d amendment rights a few times, but I'm all about common sense gun laws that ensure guns are purchased by citizens who meet appropriate criminal and psychological background checks. If that means waiting 3-5 days, so be it. Now concurrently do we need to get the illegal guns off the street, absolutely! State and local police task forces should make this a priority to curb senseless violence.
Again, ALL about the 2d amendment enforced with some common sense that our forefathers would be proud of.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:55 pm to HC87
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but I have to ask, couldn't you say the same thing about the interpretation of the 2d Amendment?
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
This thread is beautiful.
Well done, SFP.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think it should be policy to release all sorts of false and humiliating info about the perp. Ie the motive was mental illnesses brought on by shame of infantile genitalia, or the motive was frustrated pedophilia, etc
This post was edited on 10/2/17 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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what we need is common sense regulation of the press that no reasonable person could oppose.
What you're doing here is on notice sir
Posted on 10/2/17 at 3:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
1. It would be unconstitutional.
2. The media needs to self police itself to report responsibly, in a way that won't encourage others (focus on victims, not the killer).
2. The media needs to self police itself to report responsibly, in a way that won't encourage others (focus on victims, not the killer).
Posted on 10/2/17 at 5:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
That's a nice, unemotional killshot on the 2nd Amendment bashers.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 5:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
You make a most excellent point here. Bravo to you! However, had you not presented it in the way that you did, I'd have stopped reading it after the very first line....
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In the aftermath of yet another mass shooting in the U.S. — the 351st in the 336 days so far this year
Posted on 10/2/17 at 5:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Well done.
I was in the process of swallowing the hook until I read the last sentence of the OP. Only then did I see the thing that you did there.
I was in the process of swallowing the hook until I read the last sentence of the OP. Only then did I see the thing that you did there.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
had we enacted this common sense press control, it's unlikely that the church shooting is inspired by the Vegas shooting
we have decided that a free press is more important than the lives of innocent children
we have decided that a free press is more important than the lives of innocent children
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
Are you seriously arguing for government censorship?
Sounds weird coming from a conservative. Thought you guys cared about the First Amendment?
Sounds weird coming from a conservative. Thought you guys cared about the First Amendment?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:59 pm to TxTiger82
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Are you seriously arguing for government censorship?
no
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Thought you guys cared about the First Amendment?
i do. read the whole OP
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