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re: Is it really a woman's right to choose life or death for a child?

Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:36 pm to
U seem feisty. Wanna hang out some time and ill show u what it's like to root for the vols? I've been known to frick an elephant or two in my day.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:48 pm to
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We do this every time. "Murder" s a legal definition. Abortion is legal...thus, NOT murder.

I will hear "sinful", "wrong", "immoral" "awful", etc.

But, it is absolutely NOT murder.



Even though abortion has been made legal, that doesn't mean it's no longer murder in the eyes and minds of those people who oppose the deliberate killing of a future human being.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:52 pm to
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Even though abortion has been made legal, that doesn't mean it's no longer murder in the eyes and minds of those people who oppose the deliberate killing of a future human being.



Those are dumb people.


Some devout people are against even the death penalty. I have no quarrel with that. But, when they say the state is "murdering"..it is just dumb.


Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
18963 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:55 pm to
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Wanna try again, bitch?

No need.

You root for Tennessee.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:03 pm to
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Those are dumb people.


Even "dumb" people can see that the Emperor has no clothes.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68377 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:31 pm to
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We do this every time. "Murder" s a legal definition.


So then in 1787 black people were only three fifths of a person, right?

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Those are dumb people.


I really thought better of you. I'm by no measure "dumb" but I know abortion is murder regardless of any imaginary penumbras divined that provide it the guise of legitimacy.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68377 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:37 pm to
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Agreed, I believe abortion is wrong but calling it murder is just simply ignorance of the English vocabulary.


It is not ignorance of the English vocabulary, rather a deliberate political ignorance of today's science in prenatal development. Sorry the abortion supporters are willfully behind the curve.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:20 pm to
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So the government shouldn't have power to criminalize unconsented to acts?





huh? Is someone forcing women to get abortions now?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46513 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:30 pm to
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"Legally snuffing out the life of another human being." That works for me. Any arguments?


By definition, murder is illegal. You just defeated your own premise.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46513 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:33 pm to
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It is not ignorance of the English vocabulary, rather a deliberate political ignorance of today's science in prenatal development. Sorry the abortion supporters are willfully behind the curve.



Thats just simply untrue.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:53 pm to
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It is not ignorance of the English vocabulary, rather a deliberate political ignorance of today's science in prenatal development. Sorry the abortion supporters are willfully behind the curve.




Wow. What new science are you talking about? Did they find out the fetus doesn't actually share an organ with another organism? Did they found out the fetus actually breathes air like the rest of us?

This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68377 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:58 pm to
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Wow. What new science are you talking about? Did they find out the fetus doesn't actually share an organ with another organism? Did they found out the fetus actually breathes air like the rest of us?


None of that defines what is human or what is an individual. But, premies as early as 22 weeks can breath air and don't share organs, yet survive. Keep up your 1930's mindset. It'll serve you well.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20914 posts
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:13 am to
Personally, I am against abortion. I think you're killing the future child of someone by doing that. No doubt. My wife recently miscarriaged and her having a D&C (the same procedure they do for 1st trimester abortions) totally blew.

On the other hand, the government mandating what someone can and can't do with their body is abhorrent to me. They are taking enough freedoms away as it is. Freedom to be stupid is something that is given to every citizen in this country.

FWIW that's exactly how I feel about pot use as well. I don't smoke it, but I'd rather have the freedom to do so rather than see people's lives be ruined b/c of some talking head.

I don't believe in the death penalty either, but that's only because I've lost faith that our govt will only send guilty people to death row, or be convicted for that matter.
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