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Is it ISIS or ISIL?

Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:31 am
Posted by tossedoff
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:31 am
Why does everyone call the group in Iraq, ISIS...but the President and some, but not all, of his underlings, call it ISIL?

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:36 am to
Yes
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:37 am to
It's interchangeable from what I understand
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31484 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:41 am to
whatever engenders the greatest amount of fear in the hearts of Americans.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:42 am to
It is not a conspiracy. The last "L" is basically the englishing of the "S."
Posted by DonChowder
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:42 am to
What's the "L"?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31484 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:43 am to
the levant

eta:

quote:

The final "S" in the acronym ISIS stems from the Arabic word "al-Sham". This can mean the Levant, Syria or even Damascus but in the context of the global jihad it refers to the Levant.


LINK


good discussion on Sunday's No Agenda podcast:

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This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 9:47 am
Posted by AaronDeTiger
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Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:36 pm to
because the people using ISIL don't want the dumbed down public seeing the link between whats going on in Syria and whats going on in Iraq. L = Levant, S = Syria. Both reference the same group but most people won't dig deeper. We were actively funding this group to fight Bashar al-Assad. And we were probably funneling ISIS weapons from stockpiles captured in Libya through the Benghazi consulate.
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

And we were funneling ISIS weapons in Libya through the Benghazi consulate.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31484 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

because the people using ISIL don't want the dumbed down public seeing the link between whats going on in Syria and whats going on in Iraq. L = Levant, S = Syria. Both reference the same group but most people won't dig deeper. We were actively funding this group to fight Bashar al-Assad. And we were probably funneling ISIS weapons from stockpiles captured in Libya through the Benghazi consulate.


while it is true the public is dumb and the Syria comment is probably true, the "S" doesn't mean "Syria."
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

the dumbed down public


quote:

L = Levant, S = Syria


It's little moments like these that keep me going.
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
1558 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 2:18 pm to
"Islamic State of Iraq and Syria"
"Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant"

McLemore, did you not read your own quote? "The final "S" in the acronym ISIS stems from the Arabic word "al-Sham". This can mean the Levant, Syria or even Damascus but in the context of the global jihad it refers to the Levant."
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted by rmcc316
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

whatever engenders the greatest amount of fear in the hearts of Americans.





new name = WWKAA (we will kill all americans)
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31484 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

McLemore, did you not read your own quote? "The final "S" in the acronym ISIS stems from the Arabic word "al-Sham". This can mean the Levant, Syria or even Damascus but in the context of the global jihad it refers to the Levant."


yes, i did. while al-Sham can include Syria, the "S" doesn't stand for "Syria." this isn't confusing.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31484 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

whatever engenders the greatest amount of fear in the hearts of Americans.


why the downvote on this? someone taking things too seriously around here.
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