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re: Interesting Lawsuit in Madison, Mississippi
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:13 pm to The Third Leg
Posted on 9/22/14 at 12:13 pm to The Third Leg
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Screed? Get a dictionary, a-hole.
You sure are angry. I thought I was having a discussion.
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By your logic, Hefner is responsible for any copy of playboy taken into a school.
Not at all, I was pointing out that no one seems to care this was only possible because of carelessness that won't get punished.
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Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:25 pm to anc
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Parents of the expelled student are suing school district for free speech, and also citing the 8th amendment because expulsion is apparently cruel and unusual punishment.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:26 pm to anc
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Parents of the expelled student are suing school district for free speech, and also citing the 8th amendment because expulsion is apparently cruel and unusual punishment.
Well, is the girl a minor?
If so, he's lucky he's not going to jail as a sex offender.
And for the record, I really have no sympathy for ANYBODY who sends out nudes on a cellphone and later has them put on the internet for the world to see.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:30 pm to anc
He shouldn't have been expelled but the little shite should face some kind of penalty. And if the girl was a minor, he's is very lucky the charges weren't more severe.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:58 pm to anc
He did it on school property, thus the school has that level of jurisdiction to suspend or expel. Case closed, the parents suck for playing this game instead of adding their own punishment on top of this.
The end.
The end.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 1:59 pm to anc
Not an attorney, just my thoughts here.
If the kid uploaded the pic during the school day, that is probably enough to cause punishment, especially if the school has a rule against using social media or cell phones during the school day. If he actually used a school network to go it, they definetly can punish him, as every school system has rules against that.
If the girl is a minor... there are all sorts of other legal issues here... but I'm not sure one selfie or one post of selfie should result in being labled a sexual predator, etc.
Expulsion seems extreme here. A multi day suspension followed by probation makes more sense to me.
If the kid uploaded the pic during the school day, that is probably enough to cause punishment, especially if the school has a rule against using social media or cell phones during the school day. If he actually used a school network to go it, they definetly can punish him, as every school system has rules against that.
If the girl is a minor... there are all sorts of other legal issues here... but I'm not sure one selfie or one post of selfie should result in being labled a sexual predator, etc.
Expulsion seems extreme here. A multi day suspension followed by probation makes more sense to me.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:10 pm to The Third Leg
quote:How? Did he use the school network to upload the picture to a website he created? Did he distribute anything directly to any student. If the person pictured was over the age of 18, what law was broken?
If he was physically on their property when he uploaded the image, he was distributing pornography at a school during school hours.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 2:34 pm to anc
I have 2 humorous anecdotes, but nothing to contribute intellectually to the thread.
1. When I was in HS some of my friends got ahold of a picture that 3 girls posed topless in a hot tub in (all 17+). They got a screenprint and made tshirts and wore them as undershirts. Principal tried to get them suspended on it. Was unable because they did it outside of school, was not visible, girls were of age, and did not use school property for it. So they changed dress codes to say undershirts must have no screenprinting on it.
2nd one was when I was a network admin for a school district. Somebody made an Instagram feed called "Hot sluts of 3nout's employer's High School." Just pics of girls from the HS in bikinis.
We had given all students iPads and I was the Internet and app manager. So I got the happy job of figuring out who was loading the pics and if it was happening on school iPads. I was able to trace that the images were uploaded from an iOS device and that they weren't loaded from behind our firewall. The principal asked me to call Instagram and have them removed. I laughed and said that there's no way we can do that. It violates freedom of speech (us as a government entity) and Instagram's privacy policy. She demanded I do it anyways and I conferenced her in with facebook/Instagram and laughed profusely when they told her to kick dirt.
1. When I was in HS some of my friends got ahold of a picture that 3 girls posed topless in a hot tub in (all 17+). They got a screenprint and made tshirts and wore them as undershirts. Principal tried to get them suspended on it. Was unable because they did it outside of school, was not visible, girls were of age, and did not use school property for it. So they changed dress codes to say undershirts must have no screenprinting on it.
2nd one was when I was a network admin for a school district. Somebody made an Instagram feed called "Hot sluts of 3nout's employer's High School." Just pics of girls from the HS in bikinis.
We had given all students iPads and I was the Internet and app manager. So I got the happy job of figuring out who was loading the pics and if it was happening on school iPads. I was able to trace that the images were uploaded from an iOS device and that they weren't loaded from behind our firewall. The principal asked me to call Instagram and have them removed. I laughed and said that there's no way we can do that. It violates freedom of speech (us as a government entity) and Instagram's privacy policy. She demanded I do it anyways and I conferenced her in with facebook/Instagram and laughed profusely when they told her to kick dirt.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:38 pm to anc
I think someone needs to post the pics so we can make an educated judgement?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 3:53 pm to anc
quote:Agree with the school's action for him. What action did they take against the girl?
Thoughts?
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:31 pm to NC_Tigah
Doesn't matter whether the incident happened at school or not. If it involved students and created such a commotion as to "disrupt the educational process," the student can be disciplined by the school.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 5:59 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Both kids could be charged with pornography, I'd think. I'm damn sure the boy could be...and should be.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 6:05 pm to teke184
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With regards to the expelled student, I'd say that the act is stupid but not enough to warrant expulsion
Agree.
I think the girl should be suspended too.
Posted on 9/22/14 at 7:53 pm to willymeaux
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willymeaux
Mississippi
There's your problem
Mississippi, huh? And nothing bad ever happens in Louisiana? Oh, except this?
"LSU falls 34-29 to Miss. St. in Tiger Stadium"
/\ There's YOUR problem, LoL!
Mississippi State Dawgs rough up the LSU Kittens
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 8:05 pm to anc
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No Child Left Behind: They may have a case here. The Alternative School is basically a pre-juvenile prison without the resources and quality of education of the home school.
I'm not so sure about the "resources" part. In my experience, it costs significantly more to educate a child in an alternative setting such as this, as opposed to regular school.
I am not versed on NCLB, but if it's anything like most law, "fair" is based on "$$$, and what Madison is providing might pass the test.
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