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In UK, Muslims DO NOT integrate

Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:20 am
Posted by conservativewifeymom
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:20 am
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For those who claim integration, the proof is in the pudding.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:20 am to
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In the entire universe, Muslims DO NOT integrate

FIFY
Posted by Deuces
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:22 am to
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Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:24 am to
And Europe has never really had that as a core principle anyhow. Assimilation has always been more of an American idea. Europe has always had ghettos for immigrants. America tries to get them to the middle class as quickly as possible.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:29 am to
Source checks out

For the most part 2nd and 3rd generation families from SW Asia have integrated.

The problem is extremist who have been able to preach and spread the last 15 years. Luckily their main dude is now locked up.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 10:30 am
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:32 am to
The failure of Muslims to integrate and assimilate is why I am opposed to allowing large numbers of them to come here. Terrorism is really just a distraction. The real threat isn't as obvious.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:37 am to
And? They're almost all either born in the U.K. or from the Commonwealth.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:48 am to
And? Do most women wear veils in the UK? NO. Are most schools in the UK run by Muslims? NO. What does being part of the Commonwealth have anything to do with this? Try finding a better, more thoughtful argument, this one holds no water.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35503 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:15 am to
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For those who claim integration, the proof is in the pudding.


This is news?

Go to any city...you have,

Chinatown, Koreatown, Japantown, Filipino-only cable TV stations...Spanish only, etc.

Hell, you used to have Little Italy and Germantown.

Now only Europeans really assimilate.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99001 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:19 am to
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In the entire universe, Muslims DO NOT integrate


I'd say to ask Mars, but it's already too late for them.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:29 am to
About 100 years ago a bunch of Syrian Muslims immigrated to New Iberia and Lafayette. They quickly assimilated. They converted to Catholicism.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140424 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:36 am to
Integration is not happening here in NE Florida very well for Indians, Albanians and Bosnians in my experience. I live kinda near the one area of town that the Indians have congregated and where the Alabanias and Bosnians have congregated. They have created micro communities inside the larger community.

With them, there's no real reason to consider radicalization because they don't believe America to be the enemy.

I believe that there is enough evidence for Muslim micro communities are likely to become recruiting grounds for militants. That's why I'm resistent to large numbers of Muslims being imported.

Besides, at some point, these people need to stay and defend their lands and make them better.

The gays are good at turning neighborhoods around. I wonder if Toddy has ever considered the middle east.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:39 am to
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About 100 years ago


I have to believe today's technology is part of what hampers assimilation today.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67910 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:57 am to
Pretty much a given that Muslim supremacists have no desire to live peacefully with infidels.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24743 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:09 pm to
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I live kinda near the one area of town that the Indians have congregated and where the Alabanias and Bosnians have congregated. They have created micro communities inside the larger community.


This has always happened. I live in Oregon, and we have a lot of Asian and Indian immigrants. They have micro-communities, but their kids integrate really well. Throughout history in the US, their have been these types of communities. Italian, Polish, Mexican, Puerto Rican, etc... These communities were a stepping stone to moving assimilation. Often times, immigrants were too poor to live anywhere but "the hood", and they chose to live in the "hood" where people spoke the same native language as themselves. The objective was a better life for their children.

The Muslim values don't allow them to do the same. One of those values is that non-Muslims are not viewed as equals.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11299 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:50 pm to
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Chinatown, Koreatown, Japantown, Filipino-only cable TV stations...Spanish only, etc.


Historically, such neighborhoods have been predominately confined to first and second generation immigrants. They can't speak the language and don't understand the culture. However, their progeny has largely assimilated and broken out of those neighborhoods. I know tons of Asians here in Houston and most are third generation or later.

The predominately Muslim neighborhoods in France, Belgium and the UK are a completely different story. Immigrants have been moving into France since the Algerian war in the 50s and have largely never integrated. Worse yet, they won't even accept the cultural norms of the country that they chose to live in. Not only that, they support and harbor violent terrorists who wish to assert their culture as the status quo in those countries.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58733 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:55 pm to
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And? They're almost all either born in the U.K. or from the Commonwealth.


You're supporting the OP's point.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76307 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:55 pm to
You trying to tell me that hordes of Muslims from Africa or Middle East don't quickly assimilate into and enrich their new countries? I'm shocked.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:01 pm to
Define was assimilation means to you? Clearly this is a very unclear term in regards to what levels of achievement are good vs bad.

Most people don't assimilate to the point that become exactly like the others around them. Now if you are talking about people expecting Sharia Law to be practiced, I completely agree that is not assimilation.

If you are referring to something like a woman choosing to wear the hijab, that has little to do with assimilation.

You can't expect people to have incentive to assimilate until you actually have a set guideline as to what that means. We don't even require people to learn a specific language in this country, and certain demographics are given leeway in that regard while others are not.

Spanish speakers are allowed to have translators during some immigration interviews for green cards/citizenship/etc, while other languages do not. There are major issues in how we apply laws and expectations.

In the end, you have to define what integration is. I know many Muslims that practice their faith and you'd have no idea they were foreigners or Muslims. I know others that are the opposite. Of course, your such a highly intellectual person that you can't fathom to understand the difference though.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:06 pm to
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Bosnians


In D.C. and St. Louis have intergrated just fine.

Of course the fresh off the boat ones tend to stick together bc family is huge in all Balkan cultures.

But their kids are American as it can get.
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