- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
In UK, Muslims DO NOT integrate
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:20 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:20 am to conservativewifeymom
quote:
In the entire universe, Muslims DO NOT integrate
FIFY
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:24 am to conservativewifeymom
And Europe has never really had that as a core principle anyhow. Assimilation has always been more of an American idea. Europe has always had ghettos for immigrants. America tries to get them to the middle class as quickly as possible.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:29 am to conservativewifeymom
Source checks out
For the most part 2nd and 3rd generation families from SW Asia have integrated.
The problem is extremist who have been able to preach and spread the last 15 years. Luckily their main dude is now locked up.
For the most part 2nd and 3rd generation families from SW Asia have integrated.
The problem is extremist who have been able to preach and spread the last 15 years. Luckily their main dude is now locked up.
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 10:30 am
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:32 am to conservativewifeymom
The failure of Muslims to integrate and assimilate is why I am opposed to allowing large numbers of them to come here. Terrorism is really just a distraction. The real threat isn't as obvious.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:37 am to conservativewifeymom
And? They're almost all either born in the U.K. or from the Commonwealth.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:48 am to TN Bhoy
And? Do most women wear veils in the UK? NO. Are most schools in the UK run by Muslims? NO. What does being part of the Commonwealth have anything to do with this? Try finding a better, more thoughtful argument, this one holds no water.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:15 am to conservativewifeymom
quote:
For those who claim integration, the proof is in the pudding.
This is news?
Go to any city...you have,
Chinatown, Koreatown, Japantown, Filipino-only cable TV stations...Spanish only, etc.
Hell, you used to have Little Italy and Germantown.
Now only Europeans really assimilate.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:19 am to Wtodd
quote:
In the entire universe, Muslims DO NOT integrate
I'd say to ask Mars, but it's already too late for them.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:29 am to conservativewifeymom
About 100 years ago a bunch of Syrian Muslims immigrated to New Iberia and Lafayette. They quickly assimilated. They converted to Catholicism.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:36 am to conservativewifeymom
Integration is not happening here in NE Florida very well for Indians, Albanians and Bosnians in my experience. I live kinda near the one area of town that the Indians have congregated and where the Alabanias and Bosnians have congregated. They have created micro communities inside the larger community.
With them, there's no real reason to consider radicalization because they don't believe America to be the enemy.
I believe that there is enough evidence for Muslim micro communities are likely to become recruiting grounds for militants. That's why I'm resistent to large numbers of Muslims being imported.
Besides, at some point, these people need to stay and defend their lands and make them better.
The gays are good at turning neighborhoods around. I wonder if Toddy has ever considered the middle east.
With them, there's no real reason to consider radicalization because they don't believe America to be the enemy.
I believe that there is enough evidence for Muslim micro communities are likely to become recruiting grounds for militants. That's why I'm resistent to large numbers of Muslims being imported.
Besides, at some point, these people need to stay and defend their lands and make them better.
The gays are good at turning neighborhoods around. I wonder if Toddy has ever considered the middle east.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:39 am to Zach
quote:
About 100 years ago
I have to believe today's technology is part of what hampers assimilation today.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:57 am to conservativewifeymom
Pretty much a given that Muslim supremacists have no desire to live peacefully with infidels.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:09 pm to roadGator
quote:
I live kinda near the one area of town that the Indians have congregated and where the Alabanias and Bosnians have congregated. They have created micro communities inside the larger community.
This has always happened. I live in Oregon, and we have a lot of Asian and Indian immigrants. They have micro-communities, but their kids integrate really well. Throughout history in the US, their have been these types of communities. Italian, Polish, Mexican, Puerto Rican, etc... These communities were a stepping stone to moving assimilation. Often times, immigrants were too poor to live anywhere but "the hood", and they chose to live in the "hood" where people spoke the same native language as themselves. The objective was a better life for their children.
The Muslim values don't allow them to do the same. One of those values is that non-Muslims are not viewed as equals.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:50 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Chinatown, Koreatown, Japantown, Filipino-only cable TV stations...Spanish only, etc.
Historically, such neighborhoods have been predominately confined to first and second generation immigrants. They can't speak the language and don't understand the culture. However, their progeny has largely assimilated and broken out of those neighborhoods. I know tons of Asians here in Houston and most are third generation or later.
The predominately Muslim neighborhoods in France, Belgium and the UK are a completely different story. Immigrants have been moving into France since the Algerian war in the 50s and have largely never integrated. Worse yet, they won't even accept the cultural norms of the country that they chose to live in. Not only that, they support and harbor violent terrorists who wish to assert their culture as the status quo in those countries.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:55 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:
And? They're almost all either born in the U.K. or from the Commonwealth.
You're supporting the OP's point.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 12:55 pm to mule74
You trying to tell me that hordes of Muslims from Africa or Middle East don't quickly assimilate into and enrich their new countries? I'm shocked.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:01 pm to conservativewifeymom
Define was assimilation means to you? Clearly this is a very unclear term in regards to what levels of achievement are good vs bad.
Most people don't assimilate to the point that become exactly like the others around them. Now if you are talking about people expecting Sharia Law to be practiced, I completely agree that is not assimilation.
If you are referring to something like a woman choosing to wear the hijab, that has little to do with assimilation.
You can't expect people to have incentive to assimilate until you actually have a set guideline as to what that means. We don't even require people to learn a specific language in this country, and certain demographics are given leeway in that regard while others are not.
Spanish speakers are allowed to have translators during some immigration interviews for green cards/citizenship/etc, while other languages do not. There are major issues in how we apply laws and expectations.
In the end, you have to define what integration is. I know many Muslims that practice their faith and you'd have no idea they were foreigners or Muslims. I know others that are the opposite. Of course, your such a highly intellectual person that you can't fathom to understand the difference though.
Most people don't assimilate to the point that become exactly like the others around them. Now if you are talking about people expecting Sharia Law to be practiced, I completely agree that is not assimilation.
If you are referring to something like a woman choosing to wear the hijab, that has little to do with assimilation.
You can't expect people to have incentive to assimilate until you actually have a set guideline as to what that means. We don't even require people to learn a specific language in this country, and certain demographics are given leeway in that regard while others are not.
Spanish speakers are allowed to have translators during some immigration interviews for green cards/citizenship/etc, while other languages do not. There are major issues in how we apply laws and expectations.
In the end, you have to define what integration is. I know many Muslims that practice their faith and you'd have no idea they were foreigners or Muslims. I know others that are the opposite. Of course, your such a highly intellectual person that you can't fathom to understand the difference though.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:06 pm to roadGator
quote:
Bosnians
In D.C. and St. Louis have intergrated just fine.
Of course the fresh off the boat ones tend to stick together bc family is huge in all Balkan cultures.
But their kids are American as it can get.
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News