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re: In California, It's Now a Crime to Use Wrong Gender Pronoun For LGBT Seniors

Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

The one year maximum jail penalty is for a violation of any number of the provisions of the California code governing Residential Care Facilities for the Elderly.


Are you saying the quoted portion of the sponsors statement is incorrect?
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

If they decided to push it, and I bet they will try and make an example out of someone, they could make it very hard financially and personally on someone.


This is the penalty provision of the Act:

quote:

CHAPTER 3.2. Residential Care Facilities for the Elderly [1569 - 1569.889] ( Heading of Chapter 3.2 renumbered from Chapter 3.3 (as added by Stats. 1985, Ch. 1127) by Stats. 1988, Ch. 160, Sec. 91. )

quote:

ARTICLE 4. Offenses [1569.
40 - 1569.495] ( Article 4 added by Stats. 1985, Ch. 1127, Sec. 3. )

quote:

1569.40. (a) Any person who violates this chapter, or who willfully or repeatedly violates any rule or regulation adopted under this chapter, is guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), by imprisonment in the county jail for a period not to exceed one year, or by both the fine and imprisonment.


It's a maximum of one year (actually not to exceed one year) for violation of any of the provisions of the act. There are literally hundreds of provisions under the act (including operating a facility without a licence}.

Do you think the sentence penalty for using the wrong pronoun is going to be the same as operating a nursing facility without a licence ???
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261167 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:09 pm to
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Do you think the sentence penalty for using the wrong pronoun


You don't think it's pathetic that it's a fricking crime?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48516 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 9:10 pm to
Greatest melt ever

As for your post in this thread...if the penalty is for any of the enumerated violations, and using the wrong pronoun is one of the enumerated violations, then yes...the penalties are the same. Do you have a citation to the section regarding pronouns being exempt from the penalty provision?
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

if the penalty is for any of the enumerated violations, and using the wrong pronoun is one of the enumerated violations, then yes...the penalties are the same.

So you were stupid enough to believe the word of Shorty "Napoleon Complex"/ inveterate liar ShortyRob - that I was an alter.

So tell me. Just how much of a dullard are you??

And do you get your rocks off posting the help board link?? Pretty pitiful, but would expect nothing more from someone of your (low) class.

Did you ever consider my help board post was purposely written for the benefit of an administrator -- so I could get rid of shithead ShortyRob, who was following me in every board and lying about me being an alter - because he was pissed off at me because I had showed he was a dumb arse in several postings ??

Naw, that's way above your perception ability.

As far as this post, do you think that someone who uses the wrong pronoun is going to be sentenced to a year in jail - the same penalty that is prescribed for operating an unlicensed nursing home?? Really??

The citation you need is the same one I used to get the statute provisions I gave in my post - which is a link given in the OP article. Wait, don't tell me you didn't even look at that statute before you responded to my post ??

Go look for your own lazy arse self.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142329 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:43 pm to L.A.
quote:

You're a twat


bitch you called out the wrong mod

Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:39 pm to
Can anybody actually quote me the part of the statute that refers to transgender people?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48516 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Did you ever consider my help board post was purposely written for the benefit of an administrator -- so I could get rid of shithead ShortyRob, who was following me in every board and lying about me being an alter - because he was pissed off at me because I had showed he was a dumb arse in several postings ??


Considering shorty rob never stopped posting and you did....no. I never considered that.


As for the rest of your post. I am simply asking for a legal precedent to exempt the enumerated crime from the penalty section. I don't care what you bold or highlight. Just point me to the exemption.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21941 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:42 pm to
When what happens in Vegas shouldn't stay in Vegas...
But instead move to Sacramento
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

In California


The frick is in their vittles over there?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28102 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

You don't think it's pathetic that it's a fricking crime?


Talk about violating freedom of speech...
Where is the cut-off of logic with these people?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

Where is the cut-off of logic with these people?


Joke's on you--you think these folks are bound by such silly concepts as "logic."
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28102 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:51 pm to
Yeah, you got me bro
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17054 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 10:52 pm to
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Huh? How would that fly with the constitution? Maybe sue them personally, but a crime???


It doesn't. Even Ginsburg and Sotomayor wouldn't let this stand.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:19 pm to
LOL

That's got like zero chance of surviving a court battle.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

BBONDS25


Doin my work for me.

ROFLMAO

That was a spectacular melt. Hall of fame
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:23 pm to
quote:


So you were stupid enough to believe the word of Shorty "Napoleon Complex"/ inveterate liar ShortyRob - that I was an alter. 

So tell me. Just how much of a dullard are you?? 

And do you get your rocks off posting the help board link?? Pretty pitiful, but would expect nothing more from someone of your (low) class. 

Did you ever consider my help board post was purposely written for the benefit of an administrator -- so I could get rid of shithead ShortyRob, who was following me in every board and lying about me being an alter - because he was pissed off at me because I had showed he was a dumb arse in several postings ?? 

Naw, that's way above your perception ability. 

As far as this post, do you think that someone who uses the wrong pronoun is going to be sentenced to a year in jail - the same penalty that is prescribed for operating an unlicensed nursing home?? Really?? 

The citation you need is the same one I used to get the statute provisions I gave in my post - which is a link given in the OP article. Wait, don't tell me you didn't even look at that statute before you responded to my post ?? 

Go look for your own lazy arse self.


That looks a lot like bullet is STILL melting

ROFLMAO

Oh. And you're still an alter
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

-- so I could get rid of shithead ShortyRob
Well that was successful

ROFLMAO
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:28 pm to
quote:


Considering shorty rob never stopped posting and you did....no. I never considered that.


Dude hid like a bitch after humiliating himself and even after he returned he ran off the moment his melt was brought up

Though I'm sure his alter is always posting
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61310 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:23 am to
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Dude hid like a bitch after humiliating himself and even after he returned he ran off the moment his melt was brought up

Though I'm sure his alter is always posting
He was banned. He's an alter.
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