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Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:33 pm to MrLarson
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1. Deport the criminals, quickly.
2. Build a wall
2a. Have so many days to register for a worker visa and after that deportation for those that don't register.
3. Remove all govt benefits for non-citizens ==> self deportation of all the undesirable ones ASAP.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:35 pm to MrLarson
"The President . . . shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."
A reprieve is the commutation or lessening of a sentence already imposed; it does not affect the legal guilt of a person. A pardon, however, completely wipes out the legal effects of a conviction. A pardon can be issued from the time an offense is committed, and can even be issued after the full sentence has been served. It cannot, however, be granted before an offense has been committed, which would give the President the power to waive the laws.
I've been thinking of this as well as Hillary. I interpret this to mean pardons do not even require a "charge", much less a conviction. Am I right, that he would have the power to exercise pardons to both Hillary and illegals?
A reprieve is the commutation or lessening of a sentence already imposed; it does not affect the legal guilt of a person. A pardon, however, completely wipes out the legal effects of a conviction. A pardon can be issued from the time an offense is committed, and can even be issued after the full sentence has been served. It cannot, however, be granted before an offense has been committed, which would give the President the power to waive the laws.
I've been thinking of this as well as Hillary. I interpret this to mean pardons do not even require a "charge", much less a conviction. Am I right, that he would have the power to exercise pardons to both Hillary and illegals?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:35 pm to MrLarson
There was a lengthy article in The USA Today today re Presidential pardons, and bottom line, there is a time line involved, starting with the DOJ initiating the process. The main point of the article was that there was no real time for Obama to pardon anyone before he leaves office that is not already being "processed", a specific reference to Hillary for the most part.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:36 pm to MrLarson
Even if he pardoned them for their crimes up to January 19th 2017, aren't they immediately committing a crime by being here on January 20th?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:36 pm to MrLarson
Technically, the President can only pardon for past actions. After granting a pardon, illegal immigrants would immediately be violating the law by having an unlawfully presence in the U.S.
The act of pardon then becomes moot.
The act of pardon then becomes moot.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:37 pm to larry289
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exercise pardons to both Hillary and illegals?
He can't grant them amnesty so they would still be here illegally thus they could be deported.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:40 pm to MrLarson
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Law abiding undocumented immigrants
...well maybe not all the laws
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:40 pm to MrLarson
frickers are gonna be saying, "That bastard can't throw ME outta this country". Know where they are gonna be saying it? On the other side of the border. 
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:42 pm to MrLarson
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Millions of law abiding undocumented immigrants
They're not law abiding, they're illegally in this country. By definition, illegal means you are not abiding by the law.
These ignorant fools will never understand - words mean things.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:43 pm to MrLarson
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“Millions of law abiding undocumented immigrants are fearful of what will happen when the new Administration takes control in January,” the group said in a statement announcing the rally. “However, President Obama has the power of pardons that he can use to protect all DACA enrollees.”
I have just the PERFECT remedy for their little problem.....
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:44 pm to MrLarson
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so they would still be here illegally thus they could be deported.
So just to clarify for me, they would be pardoned for being here illegally, but would immediately be in violation of law because they are still here? If true, the pardon in the case of an illegal alien allows no time for them to leave?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:46 pm to MrLarson
We are not incarcerating them we are kicking them out the country..
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:48 pm to MrLarson
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Millions of law abiding undocumented illegal immigrants
Should read!
This post was edited on 11/15/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:56 pm to MrLarson
How would that even work without knowing who illegals are? You can't just pardon an unnamed group of people. That would lead to future illegals retroactively claiming they were pardoned because how would you prove they weren't in the country illegally at the time of the pardon?
Posted on 11/15/16 at 1:58 pm to MrLarson
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law abiding undocumented immigrants
Ummm....
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