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re: If Christie matter sinks him? Who could beat Hillary?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:38 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:38 pm to Ace Midnight
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blacks will stay home (at least more so than in 2008 and 2012) which brings HRC's coronation, even if nominated, in doubt.
Man you couldnt be more wrong, the Clintons are experts at motivating the black community. If Hillary chooses a black female running mate then call it now.
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:51 pm to Manky
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Man you couldnt be more wrong, the Clintons are experts at motivating the black community. If Hillary chooses a black female running mate then call it now.
I think all bets are off. Most of us assume that the traditional patterns of relative political stability will be in play. But just observe where we were during Bush...and where we are now. This place is on the edge. So is the whole ME. And economies throughout the Globe.
Obama and Hillary are big on platitudes and pie in the sky promises...but look at REALITY. At some point, the true good folk - the PRODUCERS who keep this nation alive - are going to be FORCED - by circumstance - to draw the line and take control. I.e., 'take the country back'. The Tea Party knows this. It sounds 'radical', but given the unrealistic *altruism* that the snake-oil Left dishes out...but sooner or later...the economic reality chickens come home to roost. And by the time that foray into happy land is over...most will be relieved. And have a job. And be glad of it.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 5:58 pm to Manky
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If Hillary chooses a black female running mate then call it now.
A black male possibly, but no way there will be two females on the ticket.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:55 am to NHTIGER
A poster named Dr. Ben Carson as a Possible POTUS candidate. Do you think the media will treat him the same as if he had a D after his name? Furthermore, will pundits calling him "Uncle Tom" work at discrediting him as a viable candidate?
Posted on 1/10/14 at 6:08 am to Holden Caulfield
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2. How about the GOP nominating a true conservative regardless of who the dems put forth?
Who is this true conservative you speak of? No matter how conservative a Republican is, there's always someone further to the right who thinks he's a RINO.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:35 am to cajunangelle
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am hoping there is an explanation. But VB will divert and protect and not be reasonable.
Hon, I've posted the timeline a few times. It shows subpoenas were issued. If you're too lazy or unable to read, I can't help you.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:42 am to TheFinalWord
Raise of hands.
Who actually gives a shite about this?
Who sees this for what it is, distraction from Obamacare and the terrible labor statistics release?
Who actually gives a shite about this?
Who sees this for what it is, distraction from Obamacare and the terrible labor statistics release?
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:46 am to TheFinalWord
Leno had a good one:
"Now that Christie is denying everything, he sounds even more presidential"
"Now that Christie is denying everything, he sounds even more presidential"
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:19 am to Jim Rockford
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No matter how conservative a Republican is, there's always someone further to the right who thinks he's a RINO.
The point isn't to nominate the ultimate conservative. That one guy who's further to the right on every issue than anyone else. That would be a pointless endeavor.
The point is to nominate an individual who offers true conservative solutions to the problems this country faces in order to contrast those solutions with the failed solutions coming from the left.
Honestly, I believe the only way the GOP wins is to run an acknowledged conservative and not another McCain or Romney.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 9:20 am
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:40 am to Holden Caulfield
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acknowledged conservative
The MSM will demagogue such a candidate out of the race, HC.
Shrinking economy, collapsing health care mechanism...and a Party/Candidate hawking 'austerity'
...sitting duck. BTW, what will be interesting will be how that fired/'woman scorned' gal reacts. Did Christie (like Obama) TACITLY approve of hardball "punish your enemies and reward your friend"/"bring a gun to a knife fight" (Obama quotes) of such policy? Just didn't go on record so as retain plausible deniability, like Obama; who never knows nothing about a scandal...but is well know to run virtually everything out of the Jarret stable?
This woman can toast Christie if she pulls a *Gates*, and writes a memoir, or gets a CNN commentator job.
Just the taint of such accusations would zap Christie into political purgatory. And can you imagine Rand addressing Christie in a debate:
'Governor...understanding that the presidential race in '13 was essentially a mandate on the highly unpopular and now - pernicious and hurtful ACA - , did you take that into consideration when you accepted Obama's highly public overtures, money and what essentially was an ENDORSEMENT from you at a critical time in the race? Do you think you are responsible for the current suffering that the implementation of the ACA has laid on the backs of them you purport to serve? Is this what we could expect of you, if you were elected POTUS? Money and Politics over principle?'
He is a big ole walking cooked ham! He deserves it. Don't mean he can't repent and get right.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 10:36 am to RCDfan1950
This is the first potential presidential candidate for the next election to fall to the dems political machine. The Chris C media feeding is but a first of what is to come for all non democrat candidates.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 10:56 am to Bow08tie
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This is the first potential presidential candidate for the next election to fall to the dems political machine. The Chris C media feeding is but a first of what is to come for all non democrat candidates.
True, B...but just like those new super-resistant bacteria...real Conservatives are becoming resistant to the MSM Alinskyite attacks. Damn PC and the *Moderates*
(who might vote Prog if their feelings are hurt ) that an election supposedly turns on. Inflame the base...and it's a win. It's the EXTREME
(like Obama ain't ) Right, I.e., the Tea Party that has been the last thing standing between virtual tyranny in this country. It'll continue, until the crash, and therein assume the mantle of authority. Elections and stupid voters nws. Posted on 1/10/14 at 2:32 pm to Bow08tie
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This is the first potential presidential candidate for the next election to fall to the dems political machine. The Chris C media feeding is but a first of what is to come for all non democrat candidates.
The democrats didn't make Christie act like a dumbass. He did that himself.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:52 pm to RCDfan1950
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Republicans EARNED the distrust that the Tea Party lays on them, red. I think that most understand and are pragmatists at heart
Agreed, for many. But this guy has like a 98%ACU rating and they're going after him. It's demoralizing.
I'm leery of Leadership too, but people have to be realistic. TP also has to remember that not everybody thinks 100% they way they do.
Reagan used to say "I would rather have someone who agrees with me 80% of the time, than not at all".
Granted fiscal stuff is on the edge now, but I think GOP is just trying to keep Obama from doing major damage, limiting his successes, until they can take it all. If GOP wins the Senate, they'll be able to control a lot more. But they won't take Senate if GOP has circular firing squad.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:27 pm to redandright
Total agreement. 
Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:32 pm to Jim Rockford
Your right the dems didn't , my post didn't say the dems did. How did christie act like a dumbass as your post says. Is he guilty of what is being said by the media. At this time no.
You see Jim the real news worthy dumbass is obama and all the things he has been associated with. Gun running to Mexico, Benghazi, obama care, money to green buisness,, lack of leadership, etc, etc, etc. Most media outlets have barely touched any of the above stories. Why is that in your opinion?
You see Jim the real news worthy dumbass is obama and all the things he has been associated with. Gun running to Mexico, Benghazi, obama care, money to green buisness,, lack of leadership, etc, etc, etc. Most media outlets have barely touched any of the above stories. Why is that in your opinion?
Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:46 pm to TheFinalWord
quote:Christie was never getting a presidential nod.
If Christie matter sinks him? Who could beat Hillary?
No other potential Republican candidates have charisma or national appeal. If nothing else, a Christie demise would definitely help the Democrats.
Not to mention that this issue is fricking stupid anyway.
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:00 pm to ironsides
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Nah, he was too polarizing.
He would be a shite candidate. The MSM wants him to be the GOP nominee so they will talk him up right up until the election. Then they will destroy him.
This is how they operate. You guys should know this.
LC
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:21 pm to RCDfan1950
I honestly feel like Rand might be the only candidate who could give Hillary a run.
Reasons:
1. Ignite the conservative base
2. Many libertarians who vote 3rd party would vote for him since he is fairly libertarian and would be the closest they'd ever get to having one with a legit shot at the Presidency.
3. I think he would do well with young voters, who are being hit the hardest with the ACA and unemployment. His policies combined with his views of individual liberties like decriminalizing weed would be very attractive to young voters. Plus Hillary has no redeeming qualities that would attract young voters..at all.
It might be just enough to tip the scales after 8 years of failed Obama policies. Approval is already terrible for the Democrat congressmen across the nation, along with Obama's approval and we still have 3 years to go.
Reasons:
1. Ignite the conservative base
2. Many libertarians who vote 3rd party would vote for him since he is fairly libertarian and would be the closest they'd ever get to having one with a legit shot at the Presidency.
3. I think he would do well with young voters, who are being hit the hardest with the ACA and unemployment. His policies combined with his views of individual liberties like decriminalizing weed would be very attractive to young voters. Plus Hillary has no redeeming qualities that would attract young voters..at all.
It might be just enough to tip the scales after 8 years of failed Obama policies. Approval is already terrible for the Democrat congressmen across the nation, along with Obama's approval and we still have 3 years to go.
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