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re: I was inside the court when the judge closed the Trump trial, and what I saw shocked me
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:39 pm to RedStickFox
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:39 pm to RedStickFox
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Trump's own attorneys didn't want cameras and they got their wish, now you're bitching about them getting what they want. Do you have a single minute in your entire day where you aren't bitching and moaning about how unfair everything is? Just a minute? Half a minute?
I have no idea and don’t really care what Trump’s attorneys wanted. I was simply agreeing with Dershowitz. But you go ahead and keep on bitching and moaning about my support of transparency.
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:40 pm to RedStickFox
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I specifically said I disagreed with Trump
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You say whatever you need to defend trump
you dumb idiot I noticed you skipped my post asking for charging documents and evidence in support of those documents. Not surprising.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:43 pm to BBONDS25
quote:None of those crimes need to be tried in this trial. This is clearly laid out in the document I already posted. Maybe you should actually read it.
Loook one post up, dummy. Not a single one of those “crimes” were in any charging document. Not a single one of those crimes were tried in the trial.
It's astonishing how fast you can go from "you can't list these crimes" to "they aren't in the charging document" and you can't even acknowledge that you're moving the goal posts the entire time.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:49 pm to RedStickFox
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None of those crimes need to be tried in this trial
That’s what the judge said. Just the allegation (not even in a charging document) is enough. That is one of the stronger errors for appeal.
Guilty until proven innocent. That’s what you support. You fricking fascist.
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This is clearly laid out in the document I already posted. Maybe you should actually read it.
the prosecutions opposition? quote:
It's astonishing how fast you can go from "you can't list these crimes" to "they aren't in the charging document
Well, according to the constitution, in order to be convicted of a crime in this country you have to be charged and convicted of it and you have the right to face your accuser. None of that happened here. You don’t know what you don’t know, you moron.
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acknowledge that you're moving the goal posts the entire time.
You don’t even know basic procedure. Why do you think I initially asked you to link the “later field documents?” I knew they weren’t charging documents. Because trump was never charged with an underlying crime and zero evidence of that crime was presented. That isn’t how criminal due process works. I knew you didn’t know that. You did exactly what I knew you would do. You’re just too dumb to realize it.
You proved my point.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:06 pm to BBONDS25
The judge is basically telling the jury to pick their own adventure with regards to what crime Trump was covering up.
Crime has to be established in order to claim Trump was falsifying business records to cover it up.
Crime has to be established in order to claim Trump was falsifying business records to cover it up.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:06 pm to RedStickFox
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He literally spends his every waking moment defending Trump.
He’s defending the rule of law and the legitimacy of the courts you witless jack arse.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:07 pm to Stickmam
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I love it when lib scum tell all of us Trump is not above the law. What they fail to say is Trump should not have ANY rights under the law.
FIFY...
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:08 pm to teke184
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Crime has to be established in order to claim Trump was falsifying business records to cover it up.
Yep. My mistake was saying “underlying crimes” instead of “underlying charges”. That was all red stick needed to find in wiki to declare victory and completely ignore the relevant point. He knows it’s all BS. He knows it’s a political hit job. He doesn’t care. He is a fascist.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:12 pm to BBONDS25
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you have the right to face your accuser. None of that happened here.
How many days did Trump's attorneys spend facing Trump's accuser, Michael Cohen?
Maybe if Trump wasn't such a coward he would have taken the stand and provided a competing narrative.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:16 pm to BamaAtl
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How many days did Trump's attorneys spend facing Trump's accuser, Michael Cohen?
For misdemeanors that are time barred. He never was charged with nor tried for the predicate crime. You dumb idiot. (That isn’t an admission the misdemeanors occurred either. Cohen blew that accusation out of the water.
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Maybe if Trump wasn't such a coward he would have taken the stand and provided a competing narrative.
Zero evidence of the predicate crime was presented. What would he need to testify to? Classic guilty until
Proven innocent post, though. You fascist frick.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:16 pm to BamaAtl
Broheeem, it was precisely the reason that they tore that orangutan Cohen a new arse that rendered Trump’s testimony unnecessary.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:17 pm to BamaAtl
Trump’s side wasn’t allowed to have an expert witness testify and had their rebutting witness to Cohen severely limited due to the judge having a temper tantrum.
Under what circumstances would putting Trump on the stand with that judge been a good idea? And don’t say “fairness” because the accused is not required to testify.
Under what circumstances would putting Trump on the stand with that judge been a good idea? And don’t say “fairness” because the accused is not required to testify.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:21 pm to L.A.
“Judge is a biased piece of shite who needs to be deported back to Colombia….”
So, Dershowitz decides to be a hotdog, knowing his boy is going to be found guilty, strikes out at the judge….jeeeezzzz!
So, Dershowitz decides to be a hotdog, knowing his boy is going to be found guilty, strikes out at the judge….jeeeezzzz!
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:23 pm to Born2rock
I never want to say such a thing, but it may just be unavoidable that some folks aren’t gonna be able to get it without being an attorney.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:24 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Trump is going to get convicted. The outcome of this trial was determined before jury selection.
Well, you are half right.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:28 pm to BBONDS25
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For misdemeanors that are time barred. He never was charged with nor tried for the predicate crime.
Are you stupid enough to think that New York has never used a step-up charge before?
Or that the law doesn't say that the crime need only be intended, not convicted/charged? It's not surprising that you're going to be that ignorant today, but try better.
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Zero evidence of the predicate crime was presented.
Except for the weeks of documentary, phone, text, and primary witness testimony. Cohen gave $130,000 of his own money to pay off Trump's affair with a porn star, which is a violation of federal campaign law for contribution limits and for New York State law for influencing an election. Trump then falsified business records to cover up that he'd paid off this porn star.
Innocent until proven guilty, but he was solidly proven guilty the last few weeks. His only hope is that a cult member snuck onto the jury and it hangs.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:30 pm to BamaAtl
The camps are going to be hard on you
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:41 pm to BamaAtl
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Except for the weeks of documentary, phone, text, and primary witness testimony. Cohen gave $130,000 of his own money to pay off Trump's affair with a porn star, which is a violation of federal campaign law for contribution limits and for New Yorkquote:
Are you stupid enough to think that New York has never used a step-up charge before?
You have no clue what you’re talking about.
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Or that the law doesn't say that the crime need only be intended, not convicted/charged? It's not surprising that you're going to be that ignorant today, but try better.
Intent is an element of the crime, right?
State law for influencing an election. Trump then falsified business records to cover up that he'd paid off this porn star.
That was all about the alleged falsification of documents. Which cohen blew up. The elements of the predicate crimes were never presented or even attempted to be proven. It’s basic procedure. We get it you don’t care. But zero evidence was presented to prove up the predicate crimes. They weren’t even charged.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:42 pm to Born2rock
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Born2rock
I never thought I would see so many people gleeful at jailing a political opponent. Y’all would have done great in the 40s.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:54 pm to Born2rock
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So, Dershowitz decides to be a hotdog, knowing his boy is going to be found guilty, strikes out at the judge….jeeeezzzz!
Just how illiterate are you? There isn't a functioning brain between you and BamaAtl.
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