re: I truly think we are headed for a civil war.

There were sizable populations that disagreed with secession in the South before the Civil War. It happened anyway.

I don't dress like that anymore. It was just a phase.

Good sport, it was all to easy to go there.

We won't have a civil war. What concerns me more is a coup. The CIA's relationship to Trump is disturbing to say the least. They worry me as they have the ability, motive, and influence to carry it out. That is where the coup will come out of, as well as a few people from Congress being in on it.

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You LIE!!!

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As long as you're not his boss, that's okay. But if you are his boss, he should be out like Flynn.

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If we are honest about this scenario, then foreign interests, and not state interests, will play a major aspect of the civil war. The actual demographics will be meaningless in that situation as the geopolitical game begins in earnest.

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In the long run yes. The first 72 hours would be all state demos.

And it would not go the way of Hugo/Toddy

Fwiw, I do not want something like this to happen

There won't be such a thing as a short civil war, given the size of this country and the relative diffusion of groups of people. It will be utterly horrible, and the associated crises will force near neighbors in Mexico and Canada to act, and will almost certainly invite old European powers to carve out spheres of influence.

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And it would not go the way of Hugo/Toddy

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This is such a silly statement.

Didn't read all of this, but just for kicks, someone here has to know. Normal red state blue state breakdown. Even giving the blue states the normal upper midwest states.

Where does the military style manufacturing breakdown fall nowadays? If you have to make military stuff, does the north still have a significant lead factory wise?

Honest question, no idea. My guess would be the north would still be able to militarize quicker and more effectively?

This is a ridiculous hypo, but my initial thoughts are that the systemic advantages from the first one may still be in place.

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Didn't read all of this, but just for kicks, someone here has to know. Normal red state blue state breakdown. Even giving the blue states the normal upper midwest states.

Where does the military style manufacturing breakdown fall nowadays? If you have to make military stuff, does the north still have a significant lead factory wise?

Honest question, no idea. My guess would be the north would still be able to militarize quicker and more effectively?

This is a ridiculous hypo, but my initial thoughts are that the systemic advantages from the first one may still be in place.

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If you're going red area/blue area versus red state/blue state (since that seems to be more of the split), it's probably pretty evenly split, and parts for the military hardware come from all over (including overseas). American military supply chains are some of the most intricate and complex of any products in the world, so really no one would have any edge.

Military demographics themselves tilt very heavily red, especially at the front lines. Orgs like CIA and State probably tilt slightly blue.

Sometimes it takes a little bloodshed to cleanse things ongs humans ... as to where or how it eventually happens, that's another story.

Soros is trying to finance the spark that sets us off ... he needs to be taken out.

Sanctuary cities need to be quickly and seriously punished.

Criminal illegals deported.

Violent rioters and anarchists put down with authority.

All of that would slow a lot of this down ... the problem is that none of that is likely to happen anytime soon mainly because of the leftists bureaucrats, MSM, educators and Hollywood. They are not the majority but they have the bully pulpit and are angrier with more resolve.

So it could all eventually lead to civil war of some sort ... more likely home grown terrorism similar to what we experienced from the lefties in the 60s and 70s ... Obama's friends like Weather Underground.

These things have to happen every now and then. It's already happening in much of the world, it's close to happening in the Europe and it'll eventually happen here but on what scale - who knows.

We've dealt with anarchists before early last century.