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re: I present to you this mornings flurry of tweets by GEOTUS Trump.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:46 am to Mr.Perfect
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:46 am to Mr.Perfect
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I'm in the lower part of the iceberg publicly.
Same here. I work in the film industry and I'd be blacklisted in a heartbeat if word got out.
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Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:48 am to 9th life
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s mornings flurry of tweets by GEOTUS Trump. by 9th life quote: He's trying to appease McConnell, nothing more How does it appease McConnell to endorse a loser? To me it shows Trump is willing to demonstrate how little weight his endorsement carries.
Why is it so hard to understand? He is supporting Strange as a favor to Mitch.
Moore understands and accepts this. When Moore likely wins, the POTUS will give compliments to Moore and they will be be best friends.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:49 am to 9th life
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The wiser strategy by both would be to stay out of the primary so, in my mind
Agree...but...
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the endorsement isn't about ensuring a Strange win, but rather about something else.
Right. There is an apparent bargain between Trump and McConnell. I think it has to do with the Graham-Cassidy vote. Also notice how quite the criticism of Trump form the GOPe has beem lately. It's almost like an armistice has been agreed to between establishment Republicans and Trump.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:51 am to BradPitt
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Same here. I work in the film industry and I'd be blacklisted in a heartbeat if word got out.
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BradPitt
I always knew you were one of the good guys.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 9:56 am to GumboPot
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Right. There is an apparent bargain between Trump and McConnell. I think it has to do with the Graham-Cassidy vote. Also notice how quite the criticism of Trump form the GOPe has beem lately. It's almost like an armistice has been agreed to between establishment Republicans and Trump.
Fair enough.
My thinking is that his endorsement will be a barometer for the midterms. If a Trump endorsement cant swing a senate race in AL, and it certainly appears as though it won't, then a Trump endorsement of a primary challenger in the mid-terms is not insurmountable.
So, in my view, McConnell gets a republican senator regardless, and a read on how well a trump endorsement plays out.
What does trump get? Strange as a senator if his endorsement carries weight, and...?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:05 am to bamarep
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He's trying to appease McConnell, nothing more.
So what you're saying is that Trump loves the swamp?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:06 am to 9th life
Their 4D theory is that Trump is gambling with his own endorsement to appease McConnell.
Which ends up one of two ways:
Your endorsement works and you get a McConnell guy in there (nevermind Strange is a Trump lapdog) or
The guy you endorse loses and you get another kook who'll probably be a freedom caucus guy
Why Trump supporters seem to want option 2 is way too outer dimensional for most people to understand
Which ends up one of two ways:
Your endorsement works and you get a McConnell guy in there (nevermind Strange is a Trump lapdog) or
The guy you endorse loses and you get another kook who'll probably be a freedom caucus guy
Why Trump supporters seem to want option 2 is way too outer dimensional for most people to understand
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:08 am to JuiceTerry
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Their 4D theory is that Trump is gambling with his own endorsement to appease McConnell. Which ends up one of two ways: Your endorsement works and you get a McConnell guy in there (nevermind Strange is a Trump lapdog) or The guy you endorse loses and you get another kook who'll probably be a freedom caucus guy
I guess that is what I was getting at, it seems like for McConnell its heads I win, tails you lose. I don't really get what Trump gets out of it.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:08 am to FooManChoo
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Trump explained why in his tweet: he's loyal to those who are loyal to him. I don't know if he actually agrees with Strange more than Moore, but between the two, Trump is going to stick with the one who had his back and helped him out.
Ok. Now explain to me the difference in that and the way the swamp behaves. Isn't that the definition of a "good ole boy network"?
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:30 am to Blob Fish
quote:There's right and there's wrong. When are we going to stop accepting wrong?
You would if your loyalties were with the establishment
I don't know. I love me some Rand, too, but isn't it this all or nothing type attitude that has led to their impotence in the first place? They can't get anything of substance accomplished because they can't agree on anything.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 10:33 am to TX Tiger
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There's right and there's wrong. When are we going to stop accepting wrong?
Your concept of right and wrong has been spoon fed to you your entire life. The truth is out there, but lazy sheeple like you aren't interested. Go back to watching your Kardashians.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:08 am to 9th life
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What does trump get? Strange as a senator if his endorsement carries weight, and...?
With Trump endorsing Strange it's a win for Trump whether Strange wins or Moore wins.
Scenario 1: Strange wins. Because Trump backed Strange and by extension Trump will receive Strange's support and McConnell's support and McConnell gets his lap dog.
Scenario 2: Moore wins. By default Moore will support Trump's agenda. He has already said so. Trump also continues to receive McConnell's support because Trump backed his boy Strange.
Now if Trump publicly supports Moore he will lose McConnell's goodwill now and after the election which would add to a potential bad relationship. Not good for senate relations and getting legislation passed
From the Trumpkins perspective the best case scenario is for Trump to endorse Strange to make McConnell happy and for Moore to win.
This is analogous to election year 2014 in Mississippi. Chris McDaniel was running against the reelection of Thad Cochran. Chris McDaniel was the conservative choice. Thad Cochran was the establishment choice. Cochran came out he winner in that brutal primary and has been McConnell's lap dog ever since supporting legislation like TTP and the Corker bill that turned the treaty powers on its head to allow the Iran deal to pass the senate.
We don't need another McConnell lap dog like Thad Cochran. Strange is a McConnell lap dog.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 11:22 am to Jeff Boomhauer
quote:The people in "the swamp" help each other out in spite of what's best for the American people. If both Strange and Moore can work with Trump to get his agenda pushed through, Trump is going to go with the one who has been loyal to him personally.
Ok. Now explain to me the difference in that and the way the swamp behaves. Isn't that the definition of a "good ole boy network"?
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