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Hundreds of voters un-register after Trump voter fraud panel demands info

Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29676 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:20 pm
Who knew a mere investigation could stop voter fraud. Trump is brutally efficient.

Progs heads will explode, as this makes CO a more likely GOP pickup in 18 & 20

all this winning, please, can somebody make it stop

Hundreds of voters un-register after Trump voter fraud panel demands info

This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10232 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 4:21 pm to
Amazing, but the same thing has been the case with illegals deciding that crossing over is not such a good idea.

The bully pulpit in action and FTW
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19246 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:49 pm to
big brother is watching us more and more all the time.....
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79068 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:58 pm to
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The state will not provide Social Security numbers, driver's license numbers, full date of birth or email addresses.


How are you supposed to figure out who is who with such limited info?

Voter: Donald Jones, DOB **/24/197*

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

big brother is watching us more and more all the time.....


Maintaining the integrity of our elections is something big brother is Constitutionally mandated to do. Tell all your ignorant friends.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:14 pm to
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Maintaining the integrity of our elections is something big brother is Constitutionally mandated to do. Tell all your ignorant friends.
Which part of "Big brother" are you referring to? The Constitution explicitly gives power to the states and the legislative branch regarding elections.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3171 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:16 pm to
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ig brother is watching us more and more all the time.....



Yep.

















Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26635 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:29 pm to
The linked article is trash. Not a single raw number. Just heresay and a supposed percentage increase.

Not saying it's BS, just saying you can't rely on that one shitty article to prove anything.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34896 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:30 pm to
I posited a couple of times that all Trump/Sessions have to do is make a comment re *Amnesty* and qualify (supposed) potential Citizenship with a record of NO voter fraud. Any record of fruad would be a non-starter. Game, set, match; the Dems would go insane and the fraudulent voters would be no shows at the Polls.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:32 pm to
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The Constitution explicitly gives power to the states and the legislative branch regarding elections.


And exactly what is the legislative branch supposed to do if they aren't aware of, or are complicit in, registering illegals and dead people to vote? At some point, an investigation should occur when you have precincts voting 100% for one party/candidate, and the vote totals are > 100% of registered voters.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:41 pm to
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And exactly what is the legislative branch supposed to do if they aren't aware of, or are complicit in, registering illegals and dead people to vote? At some point, an investigation should occur when you have precincts voting 100% for one party/candidate, and the vote totals are > 100% of registered voters.
Well there are things the states are required to be doing regarding registration, so that should already be an issue that is addressed.

Regardless, the need to investigate doesn't somehow change who has the Constitutional power (which you brought up) to investigate.

This doesn't mean the federal executive branch has no recourse to address certain issues, but they don't somehow get some new power because people think there is a need.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:42 pm to
But juiceterry said all 50 states said frick off!!!

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:53 pm to
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Well there are things the states are required to be doing regarding registration, so that should already be an issue that is addressed


And it is obvious that in several states, some of these things are not only not being addressed, but safeguards against voter and election fraud are being ignored and bypassed. At what point does a state lose it's ability to weigh in on federal elections, when it refuses to address issues of voter fraud?

quote:

This doesn't mean the federal executive branch has no recourse to address certain issues


Glad you approve.
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 6:54 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 7:04 pm to
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but safeguards against voter and election fraud are being ignored and bypassed.
Many states, and many of the states who get who are being accused of fraud, run audits on their elections to identify any statistical anomalies. In addition, many of the states who weren't following federal law, and threatened with legal action, for not updating their registration system were states that aren't being accused of fraud (e.g., Alabama).
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At what point does a state lose it's ability to weigh in on federal elections, when it refuses to address issues of voter fraud?
Well I don't believe any state has when come close to that, especially with the laws and regulations already in place. That behind said, if some "point" does exist, it can't be just brought out of thin air, without serious considerations at the federal and state level and with input from all branches of government.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 7:31 pm to
With something like 12 states issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants, I'd say the potential for voter and election fraud is right in everyone's face. Can't name all of them, but some should sound very familiar. California, New Mexico, Colorado, Illinois, Hawaii, Nevada. Do you think state officials there want an investigation? Me either.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

The Constitution explicitly gives power to the states and the legislative branch regarding elections.

Well, except for the part where Senators were hand picked, women couldn't participate, blacks neither.

We changed all that because it was stupid. So we should change this, because, well, not knowing who, and how many times they voted, destroys the whole one man, one vote thingy
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Well, except for the part where Senators were hand picked, women couldn't participate, blacks neither.

We changed all that because it was stupid. So we should change this, because, well, not knowing who, and how many times they voted, destroys the whole one man, one vote thingy
OK. That's fine. Then they should go through the procedures to make a Constitutional Amendment.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:40 pm to
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OK. That's fine. Then they should go through the procedures to make a Constitutional Amendment.


Or, they could cooperate with an investigative panel, to find out whether the laws already on the books are being ignored or circumvented, and face consequences up to and including having the elections in their respective states not recognized, since their integrity cannot be confirmed.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:44 pm to
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Or, they could cooperate with an investigative panel, to find out whether the laws already on the books are being ignored or circumvented
They could. Or they could feel that their procedures, and established audit mechanisms are already handling these issues.

Post-Election Audits by State

A number of states already have them in place:

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13343 posts
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:53 pm to
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They could. Or they could feel that their procedures, and established audit mechanisms are already handling these issues.


Yeah, just let them audit themselves. That's certainly going to address the problem. Brilliant! This should apply to everything. Police brutality? Let the police audit themselves! Bank robbery? Let the accused decide if they commited a crime! Fraud? Government waste? Let the accused audit themselves! Racism? Take it to the KKK or the Black Panthers! What could go wrong?
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