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How the nursing home lobby blocked reforms in Louisiana

Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
2322 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:04 pm
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In 2015, a crisis of sorts loomed for nursing home owners when Bobby Jindal, the governor, considered an overhaul of Louisiana’s policies, one that would have shifted more money to home-based providers and away from nursing homes. The reform, two years in the making, was dropped when the nursing home industry complained—an episode recounted in a recent report by the Advocate newspaper. John Bel Edwards, Mr Jindal’s successor, said during his campaign in 2015 that he wanted to pursue the plan Mr Jindal had dropped. But Mr Edwards seems to have lost his interest in it.


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This is regrettable. Surveys have shown that given the choice and some help with basic tasks, most older folks would rather stay in their own homes than be institutionalised. That option also tends to be cheaper. Most states have been going in this direction: in a typical state, about 60% of the Medicaid budget for long-term care goes to nursing homes; the other 40% goes to home- and community-based care. The ratio has been getting closer to par every year. But in Louisiana, 77% of that pie goes to nursing homes, a share that has grown in each of the last four years.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6931 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:06 pm to
So Louisiana conservatives don't want a small government and are bought by special interest groups?

When did this happen!?!?!?!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69250 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:08 pm to
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So Louisiana conservatives don't want a small government and are bought by special interest groups?
Louisiana is not, has not, and never will be a fiscally conservative state.

It's political spectrum is solely based on views on social issues.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17769 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:21 pm to
The large nursing home companies have rediculous profit margins. Some are publicly traded and most are for private for profit companies with boards and such. 80% of NH revenue comes from medicaid in LA. The NH lobby is contributing heavily to medicaid friendly politicians to maintain those profit margins.

See the problem?

This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:37 pm to
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Surveys have shown that given the choice and some help with basic tasks, most older folks would rather stay in their own homes than be institutionalised.

While I'm not disagreeing with your overall point, this is silly and relatively worthless. How many older folks do you think really have the insight to understand their limitations, especially if they are in early stages of dementia? How many would insightfully and accurately assess their ability to drive?
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14479 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:51 pm to
I generally think these types of stories about "big money" buying politicians are overblown.

Not this one.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:35 am to
Agreed. How many old folks really want to leave their homes? And sell all assets down to the limit of $4000 to live out their years? No money for the $35 hairdresser.

How many people in nursing homes have a child they can move in with? My bet is 98 of 100 would stay with a child if they could.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42453 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 5:28 am to
You completely missed the point of that quote
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68039 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:08 am to
No, I didn't.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52763 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:11 am to
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So Louisiana conservatives don't want a small government and are bought by special interest groups?


How did your small brain come to this conclusion based on the article?
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:42 am to
Anyone with a brain, regardless of size, doesn't need the article to come to that conclusion
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52763 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 7:48 am to
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Anyone with a brain, regardless of size, doesn't need the article to come to that conclusion




Please, explain in detail.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:00 am to
This is a belief from both sides of the fence. This is why we need term limits! Hard to buy someone when they will only be there a limited time. These lifers fill their pockets from lobbyist. Nursing homes have figured out a way to basically rob the elderly and steal from the government.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:02 am to
Considering the cost of sitters , not sure home is cheaper
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26963 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:12 am to
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How many people in nursing homes have a child they can move in with? My bet is 98 of 100 would stay with a child if they could.



You've obviously never watched COUNTLESS little old ladies dig in their diaper, then clean their nails with their teeth. Your 98% number may not be far off, but what of that number can care for those elderly? It is much less than 98%.

I'm not saying som NH aren't crooked. They are out there. But to say the answer is to cut funds to nursing homes and have families pay up or have families take in their own elderly and care for them at home is naive. I'm a damned nurse. I don't know that I could do it. It is a 24/7 job for some.


I am very curious what the US will be left with when the baby boomers die off. A SHARP decline in the ill and dependent? Some hospitals and nursing homes may dry up. I don't know if these businesses are looking at this long term. 20 years etc when the decline is evident. Are they filling coffers for now?
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:02 pm to
Cost of stay-at-home care is not cheaper. Do some math on it. Providing caregivers 24 hours a day for 30 days per month - figured at minimum wage - 24 x $7.25 = $174 per day x 30 days per month = $5220. That's if you could get people to work for $7.25 per hour.
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:09 pm to
Here is a thread I started several months back

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