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How should I counter my Dem family members when they claim Trumps Virus response has been

Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:58 pm
Posted by FightingTigers138
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:58 pm
terrible?

Give me some facts, I haven't been keeping up.
Posted by Jrv2damac
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65118 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:59 pm to
Just ask what the frick they wanted to be done with their hind sight bias. That’ll trip them up easily enough.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:00 pm to
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Just ask what the frick they wanted to be done with their hind sight bias.

and something better than "muh testing"
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:02 pm to
Ask them if he should have waited til the media said it was okay and wasn’t racist to shut down flights from China.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:02 pm to
Blocking flights is racist
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:02 pm to
Are liberals saying this was racist?
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37250 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:03 pm to
Tell em to open their eyes and look around.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:04 pm to
Democrats lost all moral high ground and the ability to criticize Trump’s response the second they tried to use it to race bait. I say tell them to go frick themselves OP.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:04 pm to
Tell them "he must have done something right, you're still alive."
Posted by Pitt Road
Floriduh
Member since Aug 2017
777 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:05 pm to
Avoid them, period. They are Democrats.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23190 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:07 pm to
Tell them to stop listening to npr, it’s making them retarded.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10306 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:08 pm to
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ow should I counter my Dem family members when they claim Trumps Virus response has been terrible?


I recently posted this. Tell them to prove me wrong;

A constant meme by the deplorable and despicable left wing media is there was ample warning of the coming pandemic by the latter part of 2019 and Trump was too slow to respond which has caused many preventable CV 19 infections and deaths. What if Trump had acted as these leftists sycophants insist he should have.

Based upon the predictions of a group of federal health scientists who warned of a coming pandemic from China He could have issued an executive order effective January 2, 2020 :

No events with crowds over 50 people are to be held: No national championship game, no NFL playoffs, no Super Bowl, college basketball season suspended, NBA and NHL seasons suspended,

Mardi Gras is cancelled.

No MLK events honoring Dr. King and Black History Month is not celebrated.

Colleges may not begin spring semester classes, all high school and lower grades cannot open,only essential business as determined by the federal government may operative.

The Defense Deployment Act is activated and Trump requires random businesses to suspend their usual production and make ventilators and face masks for the coming pandemic.

Effective January 1 all flights from foreign countries are suspended. Any Americans seeking to return to the United States must make arrangements by January 15.

Impeachment hearings against him could not be held a Congress could not convene.

The Supreme Court and all federal courts must suspend proceedings by January 15.

Multiple litigation would have been filed in anti Trump venues which demanded injunctions to stop this unprecedented power grab by a United States president

The left wing media would have gone into total meltdown. Trump would have been called :

A dictator.
An isolationist
A nationalist
A racist
A xenophobe
An obstructionist of justice

Even some of his strongest supporters would have turned on him.

Today the media would be excoriating him for over reacting to the pandemic which never occurred.

They would be lambasting him for the huge stockpile of unused ventilators and face masks., while praising Obama for having the fiscal responsibility to not over react and build up such an absurd amount of supplies.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29792 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:09 pm to
Johns Hopkins Study which took 2.5 years to complete that ranks US most prepared for pandemic in 2019.

US is 29th in death rate % with most of Europe and Scandanavia worse than us. If we were so poorly prepared and our strategy so poorly executed why is our results vastly better?

So, in essence what you have is Trump having us most prepared as evidence by Johns Hopkins and then him executing on that plan as evidenced by enviably low (and falling) death rate percentage rank.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 11:14 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
81775 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:09 pm to
It’s a good thread and one I’ve almost started myself several times. Interested to see the responses.
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8424 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:09 pm to
Just call them baby murderers. That’ll set the mood.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:10 pm to
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Are liberals saying this was racist?

Yeah you must have conveniently ignored the media, pelosi, and other prominent dems saying it
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6923 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:14 pm to
Why do you want to argue when you don't bother to keep up with the story?
Posted by Tigerbiscuits
Mid-City
Member since Nov 2011
988 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:14 pm to
What do you say when they point to Trump downplaying the virus? Even calling it a hoax, saying it would just go away, and that it was really just a bad flu.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56520 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:16 pm to
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How should I counter my Dem family members when they claim Trumps Virus response has been
terrible?



Explain to them that the United States response has been the best in the world. Then explain to them that their disappointment is because they wrongly expect the federal government to protect them from everything. Point out that relying on the federal government to be the first line of defense is a fundamental flaw in their thinking. Then explain to them it will be the same thing for any federally run program, in particular critical things like healthcare.

Remind them that you've been right about this all along and that they have been wrong. Then mock them for continuing to believe that some day the federal government will magically be able to do things better than local government or even better private industry.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:18 pm to
Look at the US infection rate and death rate per capita vs. the rest of the developed world. We are amongst the very best, crushing most of Europe.

The people who hate Trump have no interest in an honest debate though. If we had 10 deaths nation wide they'd say that was all his fault, blah blah
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 11:18 pm
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