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re: How Much Does America Owe Gay People In Reparations for Our Bigotry?

Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:51 pm to
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A butt load.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69282 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:52 pm to
Gay people didn't let discrimination stop the from becoming, on average, wealthier than most groups. They don't need government help.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Gay people didn't let discrimination stop the from becoming, on average, wealthier than most groups. They don't need government help.


Yeah, but how much MORE wealthy would they have been if we had not been such a hateful country? That is the question. We need to get an economist on this to throw out a number.

Think about the marriage benefit of filing joint taxes?

Think about how much inheritance was lost from Gay millionaires not being able to pass on their estates to their Gay lovers? How many Gay lovers could sue estates?

Think about how much emotional damage was caused because people knew that if they "came out" that they would lose their jobs?

How much is the military on the hook for for every person that they discharged for being gay? Or for all who were not promoted? Lots of money there.

Seriously, though. A case could be made based on the logic of the past.

The Gay Rights Movement claims to be the new Civil Rights Movement. After legal equality was reached, Civil Rights leaders went after economic advantages and payback. By what logic should the Gay community not do the same?
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:00 pm to
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If we poured a couple million into showing homosexuality is a choice I would approve
More than that has already been spent for the purpose, and the researchers have not been able to demonstrate that homosexuality is exclusively a matter of choice. I don't have any doubt that it is a choice for some, for example prisoners segregated from the opposite sex, but I'm even more certain that others respond to homosexual stimulation involuntarily.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95198 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:02 pm to
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The Gay Rights Movement claims to be the new Civil Rights Movement. After legal equality was reached, Civil Rights leaders went after economic advantages and payback. By what logic should the Gay community not do the same?


By all means, they should try to do so.

Start by hitting up Jesse Jackson's Rainbow / PUSH for not hiring a representative amount of gay employees. Then sue Al Sharpton for talking about how all the "greek homos" stole everything from the black man.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:09 pm to
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More than that has already been spent for the purpose, and the researchers have not been able to demonstrate that homosexuality is exclusively a matter of choice. I don't have any doubt that it is a choice for some, for example prisoners segregated from the opposite sex, but I'm even more certain that others respond to homosexual stimulation involuntarily.




ISWYDT.

The truth is, billions have been spent trying to show that homosexuality IS NOT a choice and that it is in born. They cannot prove that at all. There is no genetic proof that homosexuality is anything MORE than a choice. If so, it would be shouted from the rooftops daily and the debate would have ended long ago.

By the way, I am not saying that it IS a choice. I get that certain people have really strong desires that other people don't have. I am just saying that the research has gone in the opposite direction of what you have stated here.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:21 pm to
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Gay people didn't let discrimination stop the from becoming, on average, wealthier than most groups. They don't need government help.


Statistically, gays on the whole have lower BMIs, lower rates of cardiovascular disease and diabetes, more disposable income, a higher standard of living, higher educational status and lower rates of unemployment than the general population.

They're doing just fine.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:30 pm to
I guess it would be poetic justice if we sent each one of them a $3 dollar bill.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:36 pm to
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Thoughts?

Get a life
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:36 pm to
At least in 1965 if you were gay you could get a mortgage if you kept it to yourself.

No such luck for black people.

Also, my thought is you think you're smart, but you make posts like you're dumb.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:39 pm to
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The truth is, billions have been spent


Link?
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I am just saying that the research has gone in the opposite direction of what you have stated here.


No it hasn't.

Perhaps if you spent less time starting moronic threads and more time education yourself, you would avoid this daily embarrassment.

Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:44 pm to
A big fat dildo that says: YOU SUCK.
Posted by BoogerNuts
Lake Charles
Member since Nov 2013
856 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:14 pm to
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more time education yourself


You're thilly.
Posted by Semaphore
a former French colony
Member since Jan 2013
275 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:25 pm to
If it is a really big number, I might have to make plans to come out of the closet.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41658 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:27 pm to
Do you have to prove you're actually gay before you get a check in the mail?

Answer to the OP is $0
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
3138 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by sealawyer
Coonassganistan
Member since Nov 2012
3138 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:57 pm to
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I guess it would be poetic justice if we sent each one of them a $3 dollar bill.


Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Perhaps if you spent less time starting moronic threads and more time education yourself, you would avoid this daily embarrassment.


Ok. I'll spend more time education myself.

The truth is, I think that the approach of the Gay Rights movement to create a moral equivalency with the Civil Rights movement is ludicrous. But, that is what THEY did and liberals like you never called them on it. I actually think that I made a pretty good point. If it makes you and Tigah in ATL mad, then I have probably accomplished what I set out to accomplish.

For the record, what this nation did to African Americans was deplorable. I have no problem with trying make that right economically in many ways. But, I do have a problem with the Gay Rights movement trying to piggy back off the Civil Rights movement the way they have. My question involves how far they take it and when they will believe that they have reached equilibrium.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:12 pm to
As for the threads I start, I get tired of the same old griping and complaining and like to look at things from different angles. I don't see a problem with it. You should probably engage the argument, since YOU are so smart, and not get so angry.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
3763 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:24 pm to
they also have shorter life expectancies...
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