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How La. can balance the budget without cuts, taxes or Rainy Day

Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:02 pm
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Just get rid of illegal immigrants.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:16 pm to
I was going to argue the cost that the illegal population costs the state, but when you divide 244M by 60K that comes out to 3,733.33 per illegal which is a believable number.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:18 pm to
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when you divide 244M by 60K that comes out to 3,733.33 per illegal which is a believable number.


Seems kind of low too.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:21 pm to
I've seen topics about Louisiana's budget struggle, how much of that is linked to Medicaid and its recent expansion (lowering of financial standards to receive it)?
This post was edited on 2/13/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:30 pm to
I don't know. I'm up here in NW La and we don't have a lot of Mexicans and I have no idea how many are illegal. I'm assuming the illegals are primarily located in South La.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Just get rid of illegal immigrants.


So, let's focus on things that state government CAN control, shall we?
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2620 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:37 pm to
Legalize pot, get rid of the insane perpetuity law suits against oil and gas, sue the feds for offshore oil revs or create a way to charge them for tax revenues the feds recover from off shore oil.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:38 pm to
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how much of that is linked to Medicaid and its recent expansion (lowering of financial standards to receive it


For the current mid year deficit, nothing. The feds are covering 100 percent of the cost.

I haven't seen a budget yet for 2017-2018 so I can't speak to that issue
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32558 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:38 pm to
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get rid of the insane perpetuity law suits against oil and gas,

With JBE in charge

We can all dream though.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:40 pm to
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. I'm up here in NW La and we don't have a lot of Mexicans


I hope you are just being lazy and didn't intend to infer that all illegal immigrants are from Mexico or that all illegal immigrants of Hispanic origin are "Mexican." In fact in recent years, more immigrants from Mexico have returned home than have entered the US.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:42 pm to
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So, let's focus on things that state government CAN control, shall we?


So, state/local govts have the power to be 'Sanctuaries' in order to encourage illegals to come here.

But

They cannot do the reverse?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:43 pm to
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Legalize pot


Support for both the revenue raised AND the lowered cost of jailing potheads

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get rid of the insane perpetuity law suits against oil and gas


Aren't these all on contingency basis?

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sue the feds for offshore oil revs or create a way to charge them for tax revenues the feds recover from off shore oil.


Revenue sharing I believe starts in 2017. 37.5% but every dime of it goes to coastal restoration, so it won't help the general fund. Nor should it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37116 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:44 pm to
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They cannot do the reverse?


I'm pretty sure the courts have consistently ruled that immigration control is a federal issue, not a state issue.

All sanctuary city means is that local resources won't be used to deal with immigration problems. Doesn't stop ICE from doing their thing.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:47 pm to
Ok Ill pay the 138 and keep my Mexicans.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112513 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:48 pm to
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I hope you are just being lazy and didn't intend to infer that all illegal immigrants are from Mexico or that all illegal immigrants of Hispanic origin are "Mexican." In fact in recent years, more immigrants from Mexico have returned home than have entered the US.


This thread is about La. My post was about NW La. The Hispanic people here are about 100% Mexican. And they are rare. If you look at the ethnic breakdown of the school system in Caddo/Bossier parishes the 'Hispanic' rate is about 5% and they don't break that down to 'illegals'. That's probably much less than 1%.

Now, I'd be happy to hear about your non lazy description of the illegal problem in South La.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32558 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Ok Ill pay the 138 and keep my Mexicans.

That's not how this works
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112513 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:49 pm to
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All sanctuary city means is that local resources won't be used to deal with immigration problems. Doesn't stop ICE from doing their thing.


Yes, it does stop ICE from doing their thing. That's the whole crux of the city dispute with the feds. Of course, things are currently changing. That's because Obama is no more.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:50 pm to
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Ok Ill pay the 138 and keep my Mexicans.

That's not how this works



Actually it is
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23737 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:50 pm to
From the Department of Pulling Numbers Out of Their arse.

Really. At the bottom the document cites ITSELF as the source for the data.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112513 posts
Posted on 2/13/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Ok Ill pay the 138 and keep my Mexicans.


Send me your check. I'll keep my Mexicans because they are all legal and 2 of them are naturalized citizens.
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